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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Honestly, if you accept that the goal is 60 and they removed the entrance restrictions then it could be kind of a fun event.
    I agree in a way.

    Problem is, Its still kinda dumb-lucked based, and a good majority of the +2 Armor is kinda trash. Its about as Rewarding as the Daily Goblin Reward system >_>

    It'll be fun up until the point the new event smell wears off Me thinks anyway
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    I'm pretty disappointed with this crap. How about an event with progression, where you actually work towards stuff.
    NO MORE DUMB LUCK BASED SYSTEMS PLEASE.
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    /shrug. As a Dancer with almost everything, I would use:
    Euxine Hat +2 : Nowhere, but CORs would like it probably
    Euxine Coat +2 : Nowhere, but Thieves might work it in.
    Euxine Hands +2 : Depends on the Fast Cast effect, but likely nowhere.
    Euxine Kecks +2 : Awesome Exenterator piece, almost enough to make me want to do NI alone. Good piece for TPing when Saber Dance is down, as well.
    Euxine Nails +2 : Good Exenterator piece. I would probably use it over Athos's boots but it doesn't appeal to me as much as the legs.


    Thaumas Hat : Good Exenterator piece, but whether it is better than Toci's + Ocelo +1 would depend on the set bonus. Maybe good for Evisc as well, depending on the set bonus.
    Thaumas Coat : I don't know exactly how I would use it, but I can't shake the feeling this is my best delay-capped TP body.
    Thaumas Gloves : Best accuracy TP gloves. Possibly best WS gloves depending on set bonus
    Thaumas Kecks : Even hotter for Exenterator. Depending on set bonus, they may be superior to Tumbler's Trunks for other dagger WSs.
    Thaumas Nails : Miles ahead of other options for Exenterator, and likely the best feet for any dagger WS except Evisceration.

    If the set bonus gives +1 for 2/5, +2 for 3/5, +3 for 4/5, and +4 for 5/5, Thaumas Gloves/Kecks/Nails/Hat would likely be permanent WS pieces. The body is debatable because dagger WSs already have such high fTP.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Must be kinda embarassing thinking all the playerbase was going to spam the crap out of this and almost nobody is doing it, especially since this is pretty much the only addition this update. At least when WoE failed they had VW too.

    Imagine the meeting at the dev team bosses today I don't know why the test server exists, they don't listen at all and still make crap content lol
    NO MORE DUMB LUCK BASED SYSTEMS PLEASE.
    Good luck with that, Square worhsips the random number generator way too much. It's a wonderful timesink adder to almost anythin g.
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    100m the first group that reaches floor 100 times out before they can lot their gear.
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    Player Huckster's Avatar
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    I'm awaiting the official response from SE about this system - additional info and more upset user stories can be found here:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/109245-Neo-Nyzul-Isle (started by Byrth - 10 pages so far)
    http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28...isle-uncharted (started by Riken - 6 pages so far)
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    Not liking the sounds of this incarnation, either. Wasn't excited before since it didn't seem new enough. The finer details just kinda killed it.

    As others have noted, the goal for many will be hoping for floor 60 and getting a drop. Anything after is more veering more toward luck than skill. Had I the means to wave a magic wand and revamp this, I'd make it so a Neo-Runic Disc saves your progress every 10 levels. Floor 20 will continue to drop the NQ pieces, but 40/60/80/100 will go on to drop up to 4 upgrade items you'd maybe need 5 of to upgrade a given piece. NMs sub-20 would have a chance to drop an NQ armor with those 21+ having a chance to drop one upgrade item relative to their eventual boss tier. Since the disc would save your progress, I'd also remove the random option, leaving it so people have to always climb 10 floors to either reach their desired boss or make it to the next jump point for a future run. This also eliminates the stupidity of overjumping a boss floor with a random selection rolling higher than the average possibility.

    Some seem to like the idea of upping the event timer to 45 minutes, but even at 9 floors every time per random, that's 12 jumps to hit 100. If you wanted to go with the 5.5 average, it's 19. That translates to about 142 seconds per floor. Large floors can easily munch up that time, especially if it's kill all or a (difficult) leader positioned far from the lamp. Ultimately, I feel like it'd just shift the expectation of decent groups from 60 to 80, occasionally getting to 100 if objectives really favor you.
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    Player Sargent's Avatar
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    The dumb luck sytem sucks, I'll agree, but I like how it's now a case of needing a solid group to get to Floor x and to get drops. It would be better if you had more chance to random warp to a boss floor, so many times we were say at floor 54 and warped to 61.
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    Hvergelmir 90

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    I'm sure if you get green proc on the mobs by trading them random Rare/Ex items dependant on their subjobs, it will increase the number of floors you jump each time.

    /facetious off
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    This is revenge of Tanaka on the entire playerbase.

    LUCK and nothing else is the name of the game. This started with VW and now Neo Nyzul Isle.

    It's pure stupid that in VW ppl who are completely clueless on their jobs only need luck to get all the ra/ex under 10 run while you have ppl who has slaved their life away going over 300+ and still dont get the ra/ex bodies.

    Thanks SE. Nice trolling on the playerbase.
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