[Suggestion] Final Fantasy XI - EXP System

[Brolic]

While true in a day some of us actually have a life and a job you know, LOL

90% of my xp happens when i'm asleep or not at home(work).

it's sorta funny that with all the crappy shit going on with the game people still care\whine about xp.

[FrankReynolds]

I never said I was "traditional." I hated putting my flag up, but I know that the first time I hit 75, I knew how to perform my job and wasn't 40 levels under capped. I also wasn't prone to acting like a jackass. I don't care how people get their exp, but the old way did have one thing Abyssea doesn't: camaraderie. I honestly don't think it's the old party grinding people miss, I think it's making new friends and not feeling like they are a poor kid that wandering into a country club by accident. Face facts- Abyssea has made this game full of assholes. Not saying everyone is, but anyone who has played more than two years can certainly take a moment and look back and realize that while EXP might fall off of trees now, the world has become unbalanced and is full of cliques.

Think back to the days before ToAU. If you were leveling a new job outside one of the cities and were getting beat up, a passing mage would swoop in and rescue you, cheer you on, toss a protect and shell, make chit chat and probably send you a friend request and tell you to call on them if you ever needed help. But now? I could drop dead in front of the official Vana'Diel Society of White Mages and not one of them would so much as turn around, and if one of them did, it would be to run over my corpse and stare for a minute before teleporting.

But hey, if that's how people want to play, fine. It's really sad because I would probably be the first person to jump in and help one of them, even if they were a complete ass here on the forum and I know that feeling is probably not even mutual, and that's the problem.

It's funny, because back when I started playing, the first thing I did was level whm, and go charge people for raises in the dunes, so that I could buy my spells for blm.

A few things:

If it takes 3 months to level the old way, or 1 day in abyssea... at the end of 3 months, the abyssea guy has 3 months of level 99 play experience and lots of shiny gear for the job. The other guy now has to go get gear and learn how his job works in events. If he's smart, he has read up and studied, and has a firm grasp already, but he still has 3 months less experience in endgame than the other guy. Not to mention that it will probably take him a year to fully merit without using abyssea.

If the guy who leveled in abyssea hasn't figured it out by the time the guy who did everything the slow way hits 99, then that is a problem with the player. Not the leveling system.

If I am forming a level 99 group and I get a player that is a total nub, I can just grab another person (or just go without him in a lot of cases). So its sucks that there are a bunch of lames, but it doesn't ruin my day because there are thousands of other level 99 people online at any given time to choose from.

If I am forming a level 52 exp party, there is a strong likelihood that the lame duck is one of only a few people seeking, and if he is on the one or 2 jobs that make a 6 man party work, then I am screwed.

[Ravenmore]

auto target, ws, rinse repeat? wtf kind of people you play with because that sound like somebody who dies alot. LOL

What kinda of gimps where you playing with that let the mob live long enough to kill a DD in EXP. Maybe I should throw in putting hasso up and med with what ever other one hit macros in. Wait or are you one of the rdms that insisted everyone go /nin and take twice as long to kill the mobs.

[Babekeke]

Hey everyone! Before i start off i just want to say, Sorry if this has been suggested before, and if this is the wrong place to post this...

The one thing i loved to death about FFXI was the fact that it was challenging, but with Abby's Expansion (DLC) The game got waaaay to easy.. So i was thinking... Would it be possible for a patch that adds a Option to the config window, Like under gameplay it could say like "Would you like to play FFXI with Pre-Abby or FFXI's Current State"
EX: Pre-Abby is FFXI before Abby's arrival -Short Terms: Decreased EXP-
EX: FFXI's Current State -Short Terms: Increased EXP-
(There could also be a time limit between switch's like an Hour)

Also, they could add a party option depending on the leaders Settings.
There could be a notice when someone invites you saying
"Attention: This Parties leader is using the Pre-Abby settings"
And if their using current FFXI:
"Attention: This Parties leader is using "Abby Settings"

But thats all i thought of.... What do you think?

I'm not sure how you didn't notice, but... this is already available. To get the pre-abyssea exping experience, simply:
turn on your party flag;
wait;
if you get an invite to abyssea or a book burn party, ignore it;
after 3-4 hours, give up and go to find some beastmaster mobs to exp on their pets.

I personally achieve the pre-abyssea experience by levelling BLU and getting all of the spells as soon as I am able to learn them. If a friend offers to come and help, I ask them to choose a similar level job, or to level sync to me.

Sorry if someone else pointed this out in the previous 9 pages, but I don't have time to read all of the posts.

Edit: I came across a bit harsh there perhaps. I enjoyed the old grind more than I enjoy abyssea exp, I have to admit. But, I didn't enjoy the lack of parties, lack of tanks etc. etc.
FF14 actually had a good system. You put in a number of melees and a number of mages to your criteria when you make a party, and if you're on the right job, you auto-join. This got rid of the 'JP only' policy that many parties had during the times that I played.

[Sagagemini]

It was more challenging than what xi currently is. <.<

With the current system you can hit 99 in less than a Week.

Who cares about leveling???? The nightmare begins to hunt endgame gear and you want to make it even worse? If they removed Abyssea exp system they could remove abyssea entirely, including level caps because reaching 99 in Toau or Campaign would be pure masochism.

This is not 2003 FFXI anymore and the game wouldn't survive being hardcore like it was back then because the players that were teenagers back then (like myself) now are grown ups and have jobs and families to take care of and can't spend 8-16h in front of a pc anymore.

[Luvbunny]

Btw - I see more and more traditional party taking advantage of the GoV in Boyahda Tree. They probably better off making an alliance and kill faster, safer than sticking with 6 people though if they were able to chain safely, the xp probably end up somewhat similar or a bit less. There are literally gazilion camps now, with tons of benefits, and wide array of options to do. The problems are these people who thinks solo-duo is better and refuse to work together with others who are clearly doing the same thing and killing the same mobs. In this game, working together with others who are doing the same things are FAR FAR better options than trying to SOLO everything. There are TONS of people who are in need for skilling ups these days, just shout in Jeuno and grab those who are in the 100s skills and take off to these sweet open camp spots and pump the xp. This is a great alternative than abyssea, and you get more benefits - not to mention a better way to leech your alts :P

It's like, the developer gave us options, a far better alternative, and it is not abyssea, but hardly anyone bother to do it or care to try it. And if they do, they tend to keep it quiet and not even want to share it. Abyssea is not the only way you get exp these days, a good solid alliance can pump the GoV bonus faster than solo-duo and reap faster skill ups that are FREE!!! and does not cost you tons of gil for those "skill ups foods".

[Eri]

I hate Soloing for exp... but i hate 18 ppl exp groups MORE. Whatever happend to 6 ppl exp pts...... no you cannot find ppl in a reasonable amount of time. They dont l ( cwanna go entirely with 6 ppl they cant afk i guess.) or just suck at their Jobs.

Hell i don't even care about the Exp anymore (Yes 30k/h is OK and i can Solo 50k/h consistantly). Exp Pts with 6 ppl used to be fun. 18 Ppl PTs aint fun in my Book, its just mindless massmurder.