Throwing

[Akujima]

This is where I became aware you had no idea what you were doing. Good ninjas don't have separate sets for meleeing and tanking.

ok great you called me on a technicality, im actually going to agree with you for once on this, as pre-abyss I used to Tank with a Haubergeon. "Melee" should technically be "WS gear", and whatever else there is, Haste gear, and Evasion gear, blah blah, etc.

But here is where the narrow view comes in, where people seem to think that its fun to just smash stuff like a caveman, without having to account for the situational and circumstantial battles that occur. Something which has been less prevalent in FFXI these days, or is that what you opt for?

Although I find it quite absurd why anyone would want something tasteless and bland, unless you enjoy prison food. I say stop the de-evolution and re-integrate dynamic tactics and depth of involvement. Otherwise it will just turn into pushing 1 button to win the game. Gratz.

[wish12oz]

But here is where the narrow view comes in, where people seem to think that its fun to just smash stuff like a caveman, without having to account for the situational and circumstantial battles that occur. Something which has been less prevalent in FFXI these days, or is that what you opt for?

These situations do not occur. Your point has no relevancy. If you want to do something different, it's best to play a different job, rather then complain you want SE to change an existing job from the way it's worked since being introduced.

Although I find it quite absurd why anyone would want something tasteless and bland,

If you don't like the job, don't play it.

[Bulrogg]

These situations do not occur.

Are you fighting the same mob over and over? I have gone up against many mobs that are best kept distance from; and while keeping at a safe distance I toss a few :Ni/:San and yes; even shuriken.

If you aren't fighting a mob like that I see your point. But some people are and they would like to see an adjustment to some of Ninjas ranged attacking methods (Elemental and Throwing).

Is not fighting those mobs an excuse to have a closed mine and not see situations where a made adjustment can be useful?

I am more on the fence about throwing than ever before... but I would like to see (from both sides of the community) is the posters here stop imposing their playing style on everyone else. We have to get over the fact that not every person/party/alliance/linkshell fight/kite/kill the same mobs the same way.

All of this bickering and telling people to go do such-n-such or play another job is just a lot of negativity and going to get threads closed. That is why I keep asking people to bite their cheek in their replies. Make your point and hit reply before saying something that gets the thread closed or you banned.

What ever happened to "if can't say something nice...?" (I always preferred "speak like your grandmother is listening" cause my granny didn't put up with anything lol)

[wish12oz]

Are you fighting the same mob over and over? I have gone up against many mobs that are best kept distance from; and while keeping at a safe distance I toss a few :Ni/:San and yes; even shuriken.

If you aren't fighting a mob like that I see your point. But some people are and they would like to see an adjustment to some of Ninjas ranged attacking methods (Elemental and Throwing).

Why don't you tell me what you're fighting by kiting it, using weak nukes and throwing bad shurikens at it, so I can tell you "you're doing it wrong, straight tank it and kill it faster." There is nothing in the game currently that you need to fight like this, except Cuelebre, because it flys and you cant actually melee it. Not only do you not need to fight anything like this, but it is highly inefficient to fight things like this, since straight tanking makes things die faster, and for anything worth anything right now, time matters. The "I can't stand next to the mob" excuse is not valid at all.

So, tell me what you're kiting, and I will tell you why you don't need to.

[Akujima]

Why don't you tell me what you're fighting by kiting it, using weak nukes and throwing bad shurikens at it, so I can tell you "you're doing it wrong, straight tank it and kill it faster."

You have obviously missed the entire point, and just went straight back to your personal perception being the all in all. This just proves that it's clearly a waste of time trying to have a healthy debate here.