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    Player Dazusu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Having TH is nice, but it should be a bonus, not a requirement for anything.
    TH is a bonus, by nature. That's why not ever job has it. Giving 'every mob THII on drops by default' removes the idea of it being a bonus.

    Think about your suggestions before you post them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Empyreans were an encouraging indication that this was changing until the devs started pandering to the endgamers
    As opposed to pandering to the population of Casualville players and their crys of "make relics, mythics, empyreans available to everyone with no input, because this isn't really an MMO"?

    Maybe they should stick a Moogle in towns and let you get any item you want just by surfing a menu and selecting it. Oh wait, that would be too much work.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 02-14-2012 at 02:15 AM.

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    1) Introduce an NPC that gives all players 1 currency of their choice every game day.
    2). Put it by a Fafnir that pops every 5 minutes and has no loot.

    Done.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    TH is a bonus, by nature. That's why not ever job has it. Giving 'every mob THII on drops by default' removes the idea of it being a bonus.

    Think about your suggestions before you post them.




    As opposed to pandering to the population of Casualville players and their crys of "make relics, mythics, empyreans available to everyone with no input, because this isn't really an MMO"?

    Maybe they should stick a Moogle in towns and let you get any item you want just by surfing a menu and selecting it. Oh wait, that would be too much work.
    *Yawn* Yet another wannabe JP pretending to be more hardcore than everyone else. If you're going to make an argument, at least get the context right and argue against what we actually say instead of reaching for the usual talking points.
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    He was to the Point, you are just a moron
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    Remove the death spell and all instant KO TP moves. Trying using your imagination and find another way to make content difficult.
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    Player Dazusu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Yet another wannabe JP
    Moron.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    pretending to be more hardcore
    At what point did I claim to be hardcore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    than everyone else.
    I thought your whole angle was "content for casual players", why would I need to 'pretend' to be more hardcore than you/anyone given that fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    If you're going to make an argument, at least get the context right
    You want it easy. I don't.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 02-14-2012 at 04:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    Maybe they should stick a Moogle in towns and let you get any item you want just by surfing a menu and selecting it. Oh wait, that would be too much work.
    So there's no such thing as middle ground? Everything is just insanely hard or a it's a handout? Nothing in between there in your world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    You want it easy. I don't.
    I don't think anyone is saying they want a hand out, here. So how about you stop, calm down and examine the arguments and try to comprehend them before calling the other party a 'moron'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    Anyone who has played this game for years will remember the expanded map that was leaked to the net showing the other continents that haven't seen more than mere mention (mithra home land, far east, etc). Since I started (RoZ release)
    I remember that map, to bad SE didn't make it.
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    Player Dazusu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    before calling the other party a 'moron'?
    It would help if the other party wasn't a moron.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    So there's no such thing as middle ground? Everything is just insanely hard or a it's a handout? Nothing in between there in your world?
    When I've commented or put out my opinion on stuff like this, I've always said that both play styles should be catered for. For the masochists who enjoy torture - let them have it. However, no one else should be forced to participate in it. That's the joy of casual and "hardcore" (in quotes, because I don't like the stigma attached to it), but a lot of casual players believe it should all be casual. That's where my problem is.

    You can't middle-ground content that was once 'hardcore', well - you can, but I don't believe you should. It's happened, and I'm not complaining about it happening. It's the fact that SE gives a bit, and people cry for so much more.

    So it's not about middle ground, it's about taking content and nerfing the bejeebies out of it until it fits the more casual player base, rather than leaving *something* in there that the diehards enjoy as it is. Obviously you can't please everyone, but there's certainly no reason to have it all one way or the other.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 02-14-2012 at 07:43 AM.

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