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  1. #111
    Player Juilan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashhell View Post
    We also get 1-2 100's per run killing the timed spawn NMs on top of the singles.
    Most of the soloing bst are well.. solo Cities are largely underwhelming compared to COP, If they made it so there were JA areas magic areas and ws areas in the cities more people would do them, since engaging a monster you cant stagger is a waste of time in dynamis... so if 2/3 of your pulls have monsters you cant stagger you wasted 80 of your dynamis... more if that smn kills you... So changing the monster distribution would increase the amount of people in cities compared to CoP. The cities didn't have a need to change when CoP was a glass still, but now that there are easier and more profitable zones, you'll find people soloing in those zones... If they're just after gil they'd crowd sandy but if you're on a blu at a magic camp you wouldn't mind it...

    Just a thought, I just think you should clear the complaints about zilart dynamis to remedy the congestion of CoP zones, I know for a fact if i could have a camp of magic or ja staggers in a zilart zone i'd farm them for upgrades not CoP...
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  2. #112
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    For the love of Altana just make "all" mobs in all dynamis zones proc "all the time" on JA / WS / MA so people don't (ever) have to change camps and if a camp is taken they can move somewhere else..
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  3. #113
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Where is the hate thread for mnk + whm 'out of control' in abyssea threads... or hate warrior threads?

    oh yeah, there aren't hate groups for that...
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobarian View Post
    It's not just beastmasters, it's all players. And why can't we fight multiple mobs? I seem to remember doing old dyna for years and multiple mobs would be slept, and picked off one by one. One thing still irking me is why ranger deserves TH? I'm a beast main and I totally agree to an extent that we shouldn't get TH3. But what the heck, sub thf you get TH2, and a lvl 99 THF job pet gets TH1? How does that make sense... Not to mention, it's easy to play dyna BST any one can do that, but you've obviously never met any pre-abyssea-pre-nu-dyna-pre-ducalguard BSTS to make a dimwitted comment like that.
    Big difference between old dynamis and now. Techincally all mobs in the zone were yours(in old) because only people with an hourglass could enter. This is not the case and all mobs are 'shared' so holding multiple mobs for yourself is a very different story...
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    I do hate the fact that alot of bst's only use the job for the purpose of dynamis. I just wish that more jobs had opportunities to do well in dynamis. They really need to increase the proc rate on magic and ws mobs. Idk why they ever nerfed the proc rate on aoe ws in the first place. Could just increase the levels on the monsters to negate people from aoe'ing 5-6 at a time. Can anyone give suggestions on other good currency spots for nightmare mobs? I usually only do qufim, but it's just packed daily...even when i go in with just 6 people in the zone, i can't get a decent camp for JA procs.
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  6. #116
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    I do hate the fact that alot of bst's only use the job for the purpose of dynamis. I just wish that more jobs had opportunities to do well in dynamis. They really need to increase the proc rate on magic and ws mobs. Idk why they ever nerfed the proc rate on aoe ws in the first place. Could just increase the levels on the monsters to negate people from aoe'ing 5-6 at a time. Can anyone give suggestions on other good currency spots for nightmare mobs? I usually only do qufim, but it's just packed daily...even when i go in with just 6 people in the zone, i can't get a decent camp for JA procs.
    hmm methinks AoE proc's encourage more fighting over mobs. if a small pt here and there can claim a whole zone section of mobs and AoE them down, they there will be more fighting.

    Don't get me wrong, I think AoE proc is very cool.
    I'm a BST main. I don't try to claim a group of MOBs in dynamis. I kill 1, maybe 2 at a time. When I get links, I try to manage them all, as its the best way to do it. I usually don't care if someone comes and takes a 3rd mob off me, all though it can be annoying if its a mob I've proc'd.

    If its crowded there is never a chance for more than 2 anyway.

    This is a funny and bigoted thread however.

    I think what is being complained about are the bandwagon players anyway. They were Bandwagons Sams, bandwagon WAR's and Bandwagon MNK's before they became bandwagon BST's. Which makes it even more ridiculous to attack the job itself and lump all bst players into the hate group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    hmm methinks AoE proc's encourage more fighting over mobs. if a small pt here and there can claim a whole zone section of mobs and AoE them down, they there will be more fighting.

    Don't get me wrong, I think AoE proc is very cool.
    I'm a BST main. I don't try to claim a group of MOBs in dynamis. I kill 1, maybe 2 at a time. When I get links, I try to manage them all, as its the best way to do it. I usually don't care if someone comes and takes a 3rd mob off me, all though it can be annoying if its a mob I've proc'd.

    If its crowded there is never a chance for more than 2 anyway.

    This is a funny and bigoted thread however.

    I think what is being complained about are the bandwagon players anyway. They were Bandwagons Sams, bandwagon WAR's and Bandwagon MNK's before they became bandwagon BST's. Which makes it even more ridiculous to attack the job itself and lump all bst players into the hate group.
    actually bst was a bandwagon job before the 2hand buff and before that the change to mob respawn mechanics. Bst's had run of low man nm's (LoO, Aquarius to name two) for a very long time because they could mpk the hell out of anyone who was there as competition and steal the nm.
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    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    Actually It's the fact that alot of people aren't realizing that easy prey mobs drop shit currency, so groups of 3-4 go and kill easy prey and gimp there income when they could do decent challenge and spread out camps. I am starting to do decent challenge mobs with my friend and you can make mad currency per run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    They really need to increase the proc rate on magic and ws mobs.
    Magic proc rate is low because you can spam magic on mobs almost non-stop. Still, I think it's a tad TOO low.
    WS procs could use a bit higher procrate too, but it might be at the level it is due to some jobs able to spam weaponskills. I think PUP leads by a large margin (if pet is configured for WS proc spam), followed by SAM, although that might be just my imagination.
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    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Magic proc rate is low because you can spam magic on mobs almost non-stop. Still, I think it's a tad TOO low.
    WS procs could use a bit higher procrate too, but it might be at the level it is due to some jobs able to spam weaponskills. I think PUP leads by a large margin (if pet is configured for WS proc spam), followed by SAM, although that might be just my imagination.
    K but you have to realize its not like the monster is going to survive that long lol. I can keep my back turned and do energy drain 5x in a row and just gather steps and do no damage to a monster and just ws on dnc and not proc. If they upped the ws proc, atleast people would attempt different camps...
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