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    Player SNK's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    Sounds like you are the kind of person he's describing. Just a FYI and observation because most BSTs I know don't need to wash their mouths out with soap.
    Wow you really need to learn to read a lot better. I mean seriously I know that reading comprehension is hard to do but really now. Soloing exp because I can and making it a point to mind my own business unless someone else fucks with me 1st is pretty much the norm for most BSTs pre-abyessa. I mean seriously how did you read myself as me being the type of person frost is bitching about when I said it straight up that people are fucking assholes weather they're in a party or not and singling out people who solo is just blind and stupid.

    I'm sorry that we all can't play nice and take it up the ass when a party tries to bother someone who's soloing but hey if you've got a stick up your ass at me over something else then please by all means feel free to come out and defend your friend for making a worthless QQing thread.

    P.S. Washing my mouth out with soap? What are you? 10?
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    Last edited by SNK; 02-11-2012 at 12:02 AM.

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    I just see this as a passive-aggressive attack on everyone who lowmans events these days with a mule or pet. He probably got camped on in Dynamis or something.

    People who duo with mules pay twice as much per month and make a little less than twice as much gil per month, but they invest less than twice as much effort to make it and it takes the same amount of time. Mules are essentially just a fast forward button. If it is worth it to you, make one. If it is not, don't!

    Either way, making passive-aggressive threads on the forums reminding people (specifically with mules) to play nice is kind of futile and misguided. In the last six months of dynamis, I definitely saw more single-character players committing dynamis faux pas than mule-owners or BSTs. I bet about half my runs in Dynamis - Tav end when parties of single players fail to check my very explicit search comment and show up only to realize I am clearing the relevant monsters on upper floor duo with my mule. Then they sit there getting 3/10 clusters breaking my rhythm probably complaining to each other about my mule and me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    I just see this as a passive-aggressive attack on everyone who lowmans events these days with a mule or pet. He probably got camped on in Dynamis or something.

    People who duo with mules pay twice as much per month and make a little less than twice as much gil per month, but they invest less than twice as much effort to make it and it takes the same amount of time. Mules are essentially just a fast forward button. If it is worth it to you, make one. If it is not, don't!

    Either way, making passive-aggressive threads on the forums reminding people (specifically with mules) to play nice is kind of futile and misguided. In the last six months of dynamis, I definitely saw more single-character players committing dynamis faux pas than mule-owners or BSTs. I bet about half my runs in Dynamis - Tav end when parties of single players fail to check my very explicit search comment and show up only to realize I am clearing the relevant monsters on upper floor duo with my mule. Then they sit there getting 3/10 clusters breaking my rhythm probably complaining to each other about my mule and me.

    This in a nutshell. It comes down to just people forcing their way in to get what they want. When it came to world spawns NMS of course it was cutthroat so I was used to playing on both sides of the street but when I was out exping BST or soloing, I made it a point to not be a dick unless someone decided they wanted to shove theirs in my face 1st. It's easy to ruin a person's day as a BST and vice-versa.

    I'm not one to look for a fight with someone but I sure as shit will fight back when people honestly try and fight with me.
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  4. #14
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    I can't understand how people play effectively with more than 1 character. I have a 2nd character that I inherited from a dude who quit the game, but I rarely use him and actually just cancelled the account again (after it was already dormant for 4 months). 2-boxing gives me such a headache, and I generally find its only use is to do skillchains to unlock a mythic or quested weapon skill, or to drag out his BLU for yellow triggers in Abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    I can't understand how people play effectively with more than 1 character. I have a 2nd character that I inherited from a dude who quit the game, but I rarely use him and actually just cancelled the account again (after it was already dormant for 4 months). 2-boxing gives me such a headache, and I generally find its only use is to do skillchains to unlock a mythic or quested weapon skill, or to drag out his BLU for yellow triggers in Abyssea.
    Some people I know use Scripts with their mules. Things like spellcast make it easy to make sets to have a WHM or RDM mule, Cure, Haste, Silena, Poisona, etc just by the logs in the game. I've seen a few people use it and it's pretty simple when all you have to do is tell your mule to follow you from camp to camp.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    I just see this as a passive-aggressive attack on everyone who lowmans events these days with a mule or pet. He probably got camped on in Dynamis or something.

    People who duo with mules pay twice as much per month and make a little less than twice as much gil per month, but they invest less than twice as much effort to make it and it takes the same amount of time. Mules are essentially just a fast forward button. If it is worth it to you, make one. If it is not, don't!

    Either way, making passive-aggressive threads on the forums reminding people (specifically with mules) to play nice is kind of futile and misguided. In the last six months of dynamis, I definitely saw more single-character players committing dynamis faux pas than mule-owners or BSTs. I bet about half my runs in Dynamis - Tav end when parties of single players fail to check my very explicit search comment and show up only to realize I am clearing the relevant monsters on upper floor duo with my mule. Then they sit there getting 3/10 clusters breaking my rhythm probably complaining to each other about my mule and me.
    That's my point in my previous posts. This game has always has all kinds of players. Players who will play nice with one another and those that doesn't give a damn about others.

    To think a post to play nice will somehow change the entire playerbase's thinking/behaviors is just lol at its best and just show ignorance on how players can and will behave in this game (and other MMO as well).
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    His post basically just said "play nice", and there's nothing to be careful about with that. Of course, some people will read something else into it (Vivik for example), but these people always read whatever they want, so who cares about them.
    He's not just saying "play nice" he's singling out a specific group of players. If he meant for it to be general maybe he should have said "Everyone play nice". There is nothing to do but read into what he said because the OP is so general it's borderline pointless.
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  8. #18
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    Generally there are main camps where people party and I think it's fairly obvious to avoid them if you're gonna solo, this is what I do if I feel like going out and soloing stuff (not on BST, mine's a Level 3), maybe even farming or skilling up. For skilling up, there's obvious camps, but you might decide to mix it up a bit and try somewhere different and discover your own camp. I'm sure a number of people out there try this.

    Of course, that's not going to stop clashes 100% and sometimes you're gonna pick a spot because it's a decent spot and nobody was there to begin with. I think when they do exist you've just got to be mature about it and settle it like mature people. However, people aren't that mature. I can think of one Wajoam party where a BST was on the Calibris and instead of maturely settling it, people in our party just started shouting abuse and taunting him instead of showing any kind of manners. So it's not necessarily the soloer who's being the immature one, sadly, it was the BST who got GM'd (the leader decided to call one). It happens between parties too, people fighting over camps. It'd be nice if people were a little more mature, but actually that's the world we live in and it's not exclusive to reality either, people are dicks on the internet too.
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    Someone call the OP a wahmbulance, stat!
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    Please try to be a civil adult.

    While you may have found freedom from cooperating or socializing in an Massively Multiplayer Online Video Game, we unfortunately still have to deal with you. Sometimes you guys make that a really unfavorable experience. For those folks, I'd like to have a word with you.

    I cannot make threats or "pwn j00", I can only ask nicely for you to be a civil adult.

    You want to get away from those "idiots" that piss you off. You may have been treated unfairly by people, and you may lack the needed social skills to overcome such obstacles, but part of growing up is knowing how to handle such situations, and to not take out bad experiences and misdirected anger on others.

    Is that really your opinion of people who solo or multi-box? While you may not actually be trolling, your opening here certainly comes off as such. Blanket assumptions and generalizations rarely come off very well. Hopefully you didn't mean everyone who solos/multi-boxes is an angry, anti-social loser of a person, because that's a rather ignorant and bigoted way of thinking. If you don't think that then you will definitely want to clear that up.

    There's more reasons for a person to solo than just being anti-social or angry at the world. Some look to challenge themselves that way. Others are just being pragmatic. And yes a few are as you say they are.

    Everyone should be nice and respectful to others whether they are solo, partied, or allied. I've encountered good and bad from groups of all sizes, from 1 to 18. There are times I've been the soloist and times I've been part of the larger group. Simply, I've seen it all and there's no group size that's more or less innocent or guilty than another. None of us are entitled to any NM, battlefield, or camp no matter who we are or how many people we're with. We do indeed need to be civil. All of us. Be respectful to the soloist and the alliance alike. They have just as much right to whatever is out there as you do.
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    Last edited by Camiie; 02-11-2012 at 03:55 AM.

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