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    oh i just posted my opinion over Nusku's sash in a ffxiah thread lol. I'm starting to favor it as well, reason being that the af bonus can't beat the 8% gain from extra 5 dw. Here it is

    Your math isn't complete though Arcon, the numbers are actually smaller. You also need to factor that the af bonus won't happen on ws, so you need to multiply the gain by the dps % of our damage(60% to dps 40% to ws usually). I've mathed this on alla some time ago.

    The numbers i used were 5% proc with 5/5 af and 3% proc with 4/5, and also 44% triple and a fictional 27% triple.

    Even tho the proc rate from 5/5 is bigger, we would need to use tiercel neck to keep up with haste instead of using an attack piece. But attack is still a very big deal to thf. So coupling the boost from love torque (or agasaya) + capped haste with the smaller 4 pieces proc rate will beat the big 5 af pieces boost. If only our af feet actually added something to increase our damage...well, we wouldn't have much reason not to go 5/5 af lol. But even so, if it was something like attack (that people usually over look) it would be well worth it to use 5/5 af. Of course, this is all taking those proc rates to the af boost.

    But anyway, this is a nusku's discussion. And the gain from nusku's sash alone will beat the gain from going 4/5 af instead of 5/5. But we do have to sacrifice much to put nusku's to good use. Naming: our af hands. This is a really heavy piece on our arsenal, specially if we need that acc. If we happen to need the str to increase fstr...those hands achieve godhood... lol.

    So yeah, i'll go after nusku's and put it to use against normal mobs and weak nms. But against a high tier nm, 4/5 af gogogo!
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    I used big numbers specifically to give a bigger buffer, to tolerate a bigger margin of error. I also mentioned that in reality the numbers are even lower, which gives even less reason to use 5/5 AF3+2. Even 4/5 is overdoing it, the set I posted above is quite possibly the best THF melee set in the game. It's the reason why Tiercel Necklace skyrocketed in price, 'cause demand is higher than ever and you can't really obtain it anymore. And WS damage would be done in a different set anyway, since you can disregard Haste and Dual Wield completely for it, so only the melee part is relevant to look at and that was the only part I was considering for the total damage comparison. I tried to keep it as objective as possible, but that doesn't extend to WS, since they depend on the circumstances for the most part. My melee/WS ratio can range anywhere from 1 to infinity.

    Also, this isn't really a Nusku's Sash discussion either, we did get quite off-topic with this.. which is why I used size 1 font to say that full AF3+2 isn't really the best melee set. I wouldn't mind discussing this more though, in it's seperate thread.
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