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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    To big to quote and no Spoiler Options on this Website <This is the post you posted after my last post
    Convincing enough, Its refreshing to talk to someone who knows their stuff >.O

    I'll probably fool around with my sets a bit, Hell i carry like 7 daggers with me at all times, i enjoy playing around with them. So I'll probably make a few different TP Sets to see what i like the best. I like my 5/5 Build but I wouldn't mind trying the Full Haste/Dual Wield Maximum Build you listed... Actually sounds quite intriguing.


    Edit: Also, I simply love how Ocelot Looks, Maybe its because I'm a Mithra >.>; I'm just natural inclined to like feral-looking armor. The Pants are gaudy as FK but i like how the Gloves mesh.
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    I believe twilight belt and a DW+Crit rate or DA augmented ACP body or Loki's (with abyssea crit rates) maths out slightly better than nusku's and empyrean body +2. Haven't done the specifics since the new body came out but it beat out Rapparee by quite a bit. I don't think the 1% haste and 5 skill would push it that much closer. Either way I won't be full timing a belly shirt any time soon =)

    Edit: I run Mandau/Triplus so this math may not apply to you.
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    Last edited by Insaniac; 03-19-2011 at 10:49 PM.

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    In regards to current job abilities, I only have two complaints for THF.

    Mug: Should also be able to use it on NPCs.
    Steal: Should also work on AH. Let's face it, a Pyrosoul Ring is just too expensive nowadays.
    Flee: After committing a crime, who escapes by foot nowadays? Flee should summon a getaway chocobo and last at least two minutes.

    We need two new JAs!

    Robbery: A more effective version of steal that works on NPC vendors with poor security personnel and no video cameras.
    Grand Larceny: Available at lvl90. Stealing, pickpocketing and mugging are for noob THFs. It's time we start aiming bigger.
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    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    VV is only 5% DA but don't forget Epona's ring!
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    After reading all this, I'll still continue to use my 25-26% haste builds because of how haste compounds.

    For giggles did anyone remember Twilight daggers existence and how it can actually eliminate an entire attack round or 2? 20% TP drain activation. up to 10 tp.
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    Nice that you are open to try new things indeed Arcon, and attack really is a big deal for thf. People generalize things too much. "you don't need acc, you don't need attack, yadda yadda". Bullshit.

    I don't know for sure the amount of attack necessary to cap cratio on normal mobs. I've read things about 750-800. Thf/nin simply can't reach that, not without a "cheat" (stelwarts). With an attack atma + red curry bun we barely breach 700 attack. And we can't really count with stelwarts 100% of the time, specially not against nms.

    If we are around 600ish attack, adding 50 attack with an atma is virtually the same boost we get from Nusku's sash (~8%). Not small at all. I've been defending RR/AO/Apoc as the single best atma combo for thf for this reason. Surely can't be used in every situation due the hp loss, but if your purpose is damage, the combo is unsurpassed.

    So yeah, i believe your set is very close to the best we could get to dps against fodder mobs/weak nms. Best probably being something around dusk hands +1 for an extra oomph (attack again). I wouldn't doubt of other ways to tweak it around. But anyway, when it comes to big tough nms, or any mob with higher evasion, af hands shine. Its boost alone will beat that of Nusku's sash. Actually i calculated the difference between both sets (which i can show although i've done it on excel - so not many details) as being around 1% in nusku favor. This difference was small due attack starvation, acc being an issue af hands (not forgetting homam feet+love torque or agasaya) would just crush it.
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    Last edited by Laphine; 03-20-2011 at 08:55 AM.

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