Question regarding salvage bans

[Prothscar]

Please.... Try again

I don't have to, I've already won. Stop being an idiot.

[Aldersyde]

Don't act like you even for a second don't know what I'm talking about.

Frankly, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I dual box using my laptop and my old ps2. What part of that is cheating?

SE has its own windower. I know because I use it. Being able to play and post on the forums isn't inherently cheating.

Holy Christ

[Babygyrl]

Don't act like you even for a second don't know what I'm talking about.

I guess me and my husband playing ffxi in the same room next to each other is cheating too!

[Scribble]

I guess me and my husband playing ffxi in the same room next to each other is cheating too!

Extramarital dual-boxing... giggety

[Habiki]

Don't act like you even for a second don't know what I'm talking about.

I dual box and i have two seperate accounts with two seperate laptops.

[Runespider]

A lot of the people that were baned over this were banned for duplicating Sandworm drops, which was a far bigger exploit. Those drops were worth millions each and they farmed them daily, they knew they were doing wrong and that Square would fix it but they abused the hell out of it thinking Square would just let it slide. They didn't.

Also no way in hell they will reverse old bans, it's hard enough to reverse mistaken banning let alone this.

[Vagrua]

Also no way in hell they will reverse old bans, it's hard enough to reverse mistaken banning let alone this.

Well, if they had more than a years worth of logs (as they stated) to perform the bans, I'm sure they might still have those logs laying around somewhere to unban.

550 player bans doesn't sound like too much of a blow to a game with over 500k subscribers at the time?

(November 22, 2008) Now in its sixth year of service, FINAL FANTASY XI has a robust community of 500,000 subscribers and more than 1.7 million player characters from around the world. The series continues to evolve and expand, offering newcomers and fans alike an immersive, engrossing and engaging universe to traverse, defend and explore. source

[Runespider]

Don't act like you even for a second don't know what I'm talking about.

Just because some people have 2 instances of FFXI running on 1 pc and use windower programs to control the other from the first doesn't mean everyone does, many people just have an Xbox next to the desktop and use a controller.

As for windower being akin to the salvage thing, in an MMO one of the worst things you can do, that will tick off the developers is duping. If you dupe you are gonna get in serious trouble, they take that kind of thing far far more serious than most anything else you can mention (aside from hacking the servers or something).

[Zikon]

Just because some people have 2 instances of FFXI running on 1 pc and use windower programs to control the other from the first doesn't mean everyone does, many people just have an Xbox next to the desktop and use a controller.

As for windower being akin to the salvage thing, in an MMO one of the worst things you can do, that will tick off the developers is duping. If you dupe you are gonna get in serious trouble, they take that kind of thing far far more serious than most anything else you can mention (aside from hacking the servers or something).

Again debate after debate no one will win... I've said my point... if any of you disagree or any of you agree it no longer matters. I have my opinion and if even 1 SE rep reads this out of the several that talk for the English forums and says hey, "You know what maybe hes right how can we better handle stuff like this in the future if anything like this occurs again" then I'm satisfied.

If they let some people back in then Awesome some people should have their old account back. If they don't oh well couldn't hurt but voice my opinion.

If they read this and go hmm. these people who lost their accounts shouldn't ever be punished again even if they openly admit they were banned for salvage duping then awesome again.

And again about the windower thing some of you guys have horribly gross ideas of whats wrong and right its pretty stupid. I know some people play xbox/ps2/ps3 but come on most if not all of you are playing on a PC right now using windower... Your on a forum on a computer... Please

[Eurell]

Again debate after debate no one will win... I've said my point... if any of you disagree or any of you agree it no longer matters. I have my opinion and if even 1 SE rep reads this out of the several that talk for the English forums and says hey, "You know what maybe hes right how can we better handle stuff like this in the future if anything like this occurs again" then I'm satisfied.

If they let some people back in then Awesome some people should have their old account back. If they don't oh well couldn't hurt but voice my opinion.

If they read this and go hmm. these people who lost their accounts shouldn't ever be punished again even if they openly admit they were banned for salvage duping then awesome again.

And again about the windower thing some of you guys have horribly gross ideas of whats wrong and right its pretty stupid. I know some people play xbox/ps2/ps3 but come on most if not all of you are playing on a PC right now using windower... Your on a forum on a computer... Please

How should they have better handled it? People cheated. They knew they were cheating (they were idiots if they didn't). They got banned. That's exactly how it is supposed to happen. AND it had the bonus of being hilarious.

Why should any of them have their accounts back? They broke the rules and have to deal with the consequences.

I don't even understand what you mean with they should never be punished again. Do you mean for the same thing they already got banned for? Or for any future offense?

I also don't understand what you mean by this last paragraph. Do you propose they ban everyone that dualboxes because some people do it by using windower?

This whole post is full of wut