Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
I can only speak for myself here but just before Abyssea hit I was almost completely burned out with the game, I'd pretty much done everything there was to do and suffered for the doing of it (4+ years of 3 hour dyna runs twice a week bored out of my skull, 3 years of doing kings and being utterly dominated by botters with Square looking on unwilling to combat it, years working on a relic only to finally obtain it and due to balance fears it being so underwhelming it making me laugh in desbelief at spending so much time and effort on it), just hanging around because of time invested and some close friends.
That's exactly the same as what I said. People were simply excited about something new, not about something good. There was no new content released for years, WotG had no endgame whatsoever (unless you count Sandworm and Dark Ixion, which you shouldn't) and it was released over a duration of years, so no one even realy knew where it was going (it still wasn't finished by the time Abyssea was released), so of course they were gonna latch onto Abyssea. That doesn't mean people were happy about it. Shortly after Scars were released already people were annoyed with many aspects of it and it showed, because as soon as the forums went live the floodgates opened and complaint after complaint was placed.

I think you people are simply reading too much into SE's actions. Thinking they wanna return FFXI on some course it was supposedly on or that they wanna get people to XIV or whatever, I don't think any of that was a motivation for their actions, I think it's a lot simpler: they wanna react to user requests, yet they don't know how. Look at what people complained about during the Abyssea era:
- Mobs are too easy
- Atma are nice but overpowered
- New gear is overpowered
- Fractured big groups, everything is duod/triod
- Limits job choices to WAR, NIN, BLM, WHM, THF, MNK
- Too easy to finish, gear too quick to obtain
- No skill required
I know some of you will probably disagree with these things being bad, but I'm not here to argue those, they are simply complaints that were made en masse when the forums went live. If you look at it, all of those things were addressed with Voidwatch. Mobs are hard again (or harder at least), Atmacite aren't nearly as powerful (though I assume they underestimated Save TP, which is another reason why they wanna nerf it now) and neither is the gear, big groups are almost required (at least until they make certain lights cap out, as they said they would), broad spectrum of jobs is basically forced into inclusion, gear drop rates are horribly low and you need to know what you're doing or you're simply gonna wipe on any of the harder tiers. Some of these changes are good, others are pretty ridiculous. It's the exact same thing as with the recent nerfs, it's like SE realized the problem, but in trying to fix it came up with a solution that's just off base, and expectedly, people are complaining about it again. And it's a good thing, the shitstorm that ensued about some of VW's issues will definitely prevent them from trying something like that again. All we can do is hope they won't screw up another way when Legion and the unnamed event go live.

Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
What some rehash events that offer nothing but more gear grinds. Nothing new just systems that have been reskined so yes nothing of meaning.
So, anything that isn't a new expansion would fit that criteria? Because in addition to rehashing (a kinder word would be revamping) old events, they also announced expansions to current events and two completely new events for this year.

Don't get me wrong, being a story buff myself (I even liked WotG for that matter) I'll be the last person to complain about a full expansion, I'd even accept if they took a year off of current development just to get it released. But they just got the game to 99 and Abyssea was horribly short lived, so they need to find some current events to keep us on the hook for a while so they can go and make something else, hopefully something big and beautiful (and hopefully not just reskinned old zones like in WotG or Abyssea). Not that I actually believe that's gonna happen anytime soon (not before they realize this game can't continue for long on a skeleton crew and hire some new people to it), chances are what they're making will be just more events like this. Which, personally, I'd also be ok with, as long as they make them entertaining and it keeps me hooked on the game for a while longer.