The nerf scattergun approach?

[Eri]

FFXI Was never hard. Your Nostalgia goggles are blinding you.

Hard for solo and some ppl. But It was never hard in a group of good Players. I give you that.

It was tedious, Theres a differenc. The difficulty was artificially created by low drop rates, and limited spawn timers (24hr HNMs, etc).

Tedious yes. But getting something you wished for a long time is... rewarding.
(24HNM- ToAUhnm) Been there not doing that again. That was so time consumeing....

The game was as easy then as it is now. Nothing at 75 was difficult outside of AV, and PW, and I'd go as far to say Botulus Rex is about as difficult as PW was in some ways. (Outside of you know, 2 days and vomiting)

No, its way more easy now. Where its was mildly challengeing to Solo IT mobs back then. Its a joke now.
The real challenge now is to keep hate on your tank. Thats SAD!

[Ravenmore]

You have never worked in any customer service industry have you? I have and told customers to leave after repeated complaints. It was obvious that no matter how many times or how many ways my chef couldn't cook the steak how she wanted. It came to the point where loosing more money on wasted product trying to keep her happy was more then what we would get in return. Ive also had people complain about the music choices, the music was part of our atmosphere and wont change. Just because customers might not like it doesn't mean the company is going to change it to appease the complainer. If you have ever seen the movie waiting you would understand why the customers are not always right. If you have a concern by all means complain. But like that girl with the steak in waiting its they way you come across that will get you results.

Yep I have 15 years and 10 in 5 star Dinning. At my old place of employment we had up to 2k dollars to make a guest happy and could not say "No" to any guest could only offer other options. Every outlet had a comapny credit card that was used in cases that we couldn't fill the customer needs in house. If fact if you said no you would get writen up. Because that one pissed off customer would tell 10 or more. No matter how much money you loss you never stop trying.

[zagam]

Yep I have 15 years and 10 in 5 star Dinning. At my old place of employment we had up to 2k dollars to make a guest happy and could not say "No" to any guest could only offer other options. Every outlet had a comapny credit card that was used in cases that we couldn't fill the customer needs in house. If fact if you said no you would get writen up. Because that one pissed off customer would tell 10 or more. No matter how much money you loss you never stop trying.

Either you're lying or that company is out of business . 2k expendable cash to make a customer happy on what a $100-200 meal? Please let the world know what place this is so we can all go get free stuff for putting our own hair in the soup.

[Karbuncle]

Hard for solo and some ppl. But It was never hard in a group of good Players. I give you that.



Tedious yes. But getting something you wished for a long time is... rewarding.
(24HNM- ToAUhnm) Been there not doing that again. That was so time consumeing....



No, its way more easy now. Where its was mildly challengeing to Solo IT mobs back then. Its a joke now.
The real challenge now is to keep hate on your tank. Thats SAD!

IDK, I still think you may be experiencing nostalgia goggles. The game really wasn't difficult unless you include self-imposed Difficulty (Like Soloing an IT mob, Or doing things alone).

A SCH Solo'd Hahava, That sounds like difficulty you could do. You can impose the same challenge then as now! just gotta try.

Solo an IT outside Abyssea is still difficult to some degree :P

[Draylo]

Kinda scary but this kind of disconnect between players/devs is what did SWG in (in addition to a new Star Wars MMO). I hope it doesn't go that route if anyone knows about that, it sounds very familiar to this current situation.

[Eri]

Solo an IT outside Abyssea is still difficult to some degree :P

Been there got #chain 3 solo. Call that challenge? lol But i could be Merriting like that i guess...

[Ravenmore]

Either you're lying or that company is out of business . 2k expendable cash to make a customer happy on what a $100-200 meal? Please let the world know what place this is so we can all go get free stuff for putting our own hair in the soup.

Up to 2k depending on how bad the screw up was most problems were fixed with free drinks. But 2k is not much when a clinet might be drop a couple mil on a convention.

[zagam]

Up to 2k depending on how bad the screw up was most problems were fixed with free drinks. But 2k is not much when a clinet might be drop a couple mil on a convention.

You mention restaurant then 2k then jump to million dollar deals? what is it geesh. Of course 2k is nothing for a million dollar deal, infarct if 2k was the max then that company is cheap.

You sit there and and threaten your 12.95 (not MILLIONS) and expect game changing results. Like I said the customer is not always right it is weighted on the cost of fixing/product value so take your 2k/multi-millions out of the equation and put in how many time you threaten to never play a SE product again /12.95 and still expect SE to roll over to your ever whim.

[Rekin]

Hard for solo and some ppl. But It was never hard in a group of good Players. I give you that.



Tedious yes. But getting something you wished for a long time is... rewarding.
(24HNM- ToAUhnm) Been there not doing that again. That was so time consumeing....



No, its way more easy now. Where its was mildly challengeing to Solo IT mobs back then. Its a joke now.
The real challenge now is to keep hate on your tank. Thats SAD!

Tedious should never be an excuse for increasing gameplay for a game. One of my all time favorite game series has been the Monster hunter series which I have roughly over a thousand hours of pure game play. Drop rates off creatures were never HORRID or miserable they were reasonable and the reason a person wouldn't get X thing would come more from failing the quest rather then going 0/100+ on the drop after defeating the beast. Also none of those hours of gameplay stemmed from just standing around WAITING for a creature to pop or some specific event to occur, they came from actually playing the game.

TLR; How long it takes you to get something shouldn't make it satisfying or rewarding it should be how much actual enjoyment you get from the content when you obtain that item.

[Damane]

The problem with FFXI is that their fundamental job/battlemechanic/systemdesign/maths was done for up on to lvl 50 with no regards to lvl 99.

Example1: hate system. The Hate system works perfectly until lvl 50. People noticed allready at lvl 75 that the hatesystem is skewed. At lvl 99 its just broken and doesnt work anymore if at all. (throwing in hate reset mobs doesnt help the fact either lol)

Example2: is the dmg taken. Atm there is no middle ground. The Defense VIT vs attack STR curve is so skewed at lvl 99 that mobs either hit you like a fucking truck or are not even worth to note. There is no in between.

There are some fundamental flaws. While SE tries to balance the jobs (which is imho good) they actually should fix the fundemental flaws that are plaguing the game and were allready noticeable at lvl 75 (not so strong like today but it was there).