The nerf scattergun approach?

[doctorugh]

My suggestion to SE would be to simply make mobs more difficult instead of nerfing. Perhaps give certain mobs the ability to steal rolls/songs ect. The best way to make a child cry is give them something and then jerk it away........we really dont work that much different as we grow older, we can just verbalize better.

[Karbuncle]

Im laughing at it. Especially since the OP continues to make pointless threads just to get a few likes from the OF cry baby circle . Put up a dislike button and you'll see that the "entire player base" " majority of players"( its 85% right?) isn't really on your side. But I guess if that happens then runespiders constant complaints won't have much weight when he cant pull the entire player base is gonna quit if you don't do what I want.

Right, Because when a Company who just a few months ago promised us "No nerfs, Only Buffs", Is now going full-nerf mode, Hitting WAR, MNK, COR, BST... amongst other things, We have no right to complain?

While Runespider may be making multiple threads "whining", he as a customer is entitled to such act, especially when these actions are going against what were made to believe was going to be coming in the future of FFXI.

anyone defending these random nerfs and frankly bad decisions are simply white-knights who have been deluded with years of FFXI into thinking every act from SE should be viewed as benevolent gifts of Balance.

Nerfs are never and should never be the answer to job adjustments. Buffing other jobs to be on par would be a better solution. I don't care if they nerfed WAR, MNK, and SAM in order to Buff THF To be the best DD and tank in the game, I would still be upset they nerfed WAR, MNK, and SAM in the process.

And its no secret THF is my favorite job.

Nerfs are quite simply never the solution, and frankly, its the "easy way out" when it comes to job adjustments. Its far easier in the name of "balance" to nerf one job, than to try and buff others around it.

[Vold]

I have little faith in there being a bright future for the game by the end of this year if they are still busy on this kind of stuff. Looking ahead it pretty much looks like the rest of the year is going to be spent on revamping old content instead of giving us new content in the form of expansions to the game that we pay for. Not that I am against the idea of revamping stuff but old is old and every moment spent on old is moments not spent on new. I am sick to death of the WotG era. From release up to Voidwatch it all stinks of being WotG related. I'm ready to move on to a new playground within the Vana'diel we know and love and leave void-everything the hell behind. Forever.

This is why I love this cookie I'm eating so much. It doesn't have personal issues. It doesn't mind there's a bigger and better incarnation of it. It doesn't feel the need for it's chocolate chips to be balanced. It doesn't feel the need to adjust it's chp count so that it's the same as a smaller cookie so that it does not become obsolete. It just cowards away there in my hand and gets eaten without any fuss about anything. Mmm so good. I am now happy. It's that easy. I am now happy. 10/10 will buy again.

FFXI is starting to feel like 1/10 will not play again.

[Damane]

while yes we are seeing some nerfs atm (and trust me cor is one of my main jobs so I hate this nerf), I would like to be fair and say that we are also seeing buffs.

The circle ability buffs (while situational) is a very strong buff
the cure potency buff to cure I-IV
We also saw the PUP - automaton buffs. And still see some

It really looks to me they want to find a middleground and get all the jobs pushed into that direction. Which imho is good, but they alos overlook the fact that you cant nerf every zerg ability when you have abyssmal droprates in VW... the longer the fights the more time it takes you to get your stuff with this shit dorprates.

alot of merit category 2 changes are actually BUFFs.

[Juilan]

The fact that a post like this pops up, and the first page is all people agreeing with it, instead of laughing at it, should really tell you something SE.

That assumes the devs can actually read, or understand simple language.
BALANCE = MONSTER THAT ARE MORE THAN FOURTY LEVELS UNDER YOU NO LONGER AGGRO.

[Runespider]

Im laughing at it. Especially since the OP continues to make pointless threads just to get a few likes from the OF cry baby circle . Put up a dislike button and you'll see that the "entire player base" " majority of players"( its 85% right?) isn't really on your side. But I guess if that happens then runespiders constant complaints won't have much weight when he cant pull the entire player base is gonna quit if you don't do what I want.

I do agree the threads are pointless, as are most that get posted here. Ultimately I suppose at this point in time we should just either shutup and accept the game/dev team for what it is and carry on playing or quit. Voicing complaints on here when the writing is on the wall boils down to, as you say pointless whining now.

I'm done making them now at least.

[zagam]

Right, Because when a Company who just a few months ago promised us "No nerfs, Only Buffs", Is now going full-nerf mode, Hitting WAR, MNK, COR, BST... amongst other things, We have no right to complain?

While Runespider may be making multiple threads "whining", he as a customer is entitled to such act, especially when these actions are going against what were made to believe was going to be coming in the future of FFXI.

anyone defending these random nerfs and frankly bad decisions are simply white-knights who have been deluded with years of FFXI into thinking every act from SE should be viewed as benevolent gifts of Balance.

Nerfs are never and should never be the answer to job adjustments. Buffing other jobs to be on par would be a better solution. I don't care if they nerfed WAR, MNK, and SAM in order to Buff THF To be the best DD and tank in the game, I would still be upset they nerfed WAR, MNK, and SAM in the process.

And its no secret THF is my favorite job.

Nerfs are quite simply never the solution, and frankly, its the "easy way out" when it comes to job adjustments. Its far easier in the name of "balance" to nerf one job, than to try and buff others around it.

The same company also said a few months ago they would never change the VW drops system and went ahead and did it anyway , your point? If you thing SE is the only company to ever change its mind about the product the sell then you are naive. And you cant seriously believe that continuing to buff jobs over and over will make the game better? you cant keep setting the bar higher and expect a balanced product.
And of course you have the right to complain, its an American past time. Just don't sit there and assume that everyone is on the same page. But any opinion vs you is white knighting? You sound like that Stockholm's guy every time someone disagrees with you. I never once said I liked nerfs but I understand to some degree why they are needed, Im an ukko war and ill be the first to admit I could see a nerf coming a mile away.

Runespider is a customer yes. But the problem most of you fail to understand is the the phrase the customer is always right is WRONG. There comes a time when any business will cut its losses with a customer that they clearly cant make happy. Some people are born complainers, no matter what you do nothing will ever be good enough.

Nerfs aren't the easy way out infarct just the opposite. The easy way out is to do like you said and buff everything else while making everyone happy at the same time, except for the job that was the bar. But again, the bar cant keep going up. So instead the nerf some things and have a few people fume on the OF.

[Karbuncle]

I respect your choices in this matter, Though i respectfully decline.

But I know never to fight a Fanboy/WhiteKnight. I have no interest in attempting to ask the wind to not blow, Or Water to not be wet.

Thank you for your time.

[Eri]

Its sad that noone seems to see that Abyssea broke balance and that what ppl call nerfs are fixes that have to be done sooner or later.
The Game is way to easy now. Period.
Its not fun - because its easy. I dont want things handed to me. I wanna work for it.

And while yes sometimes its nice to get something..... do you feel any acomplishment in anything anymore?

Abyssea was OK. As casual Content. But at the same time ppl got used to the easy pace. 9 of 10 Players outright suck and Leech. Ppl you woulda kicked from Pt before for beeing useless.

Idc what you ppl think honesly. Things have to change. Rather sooner then later.

[Ravenmore]

And the Whiteknights said SE would get 14 turned around, well looked how that went they are scraping the game and building a new one withe the scraps of the old. Thats not turning arond a game thats amitting they have no clue how to do things with out a couple dry runs.

I for one will never buy another game from SE new they will not get any cash from me I can find the few and fare between gems on the resell market. If more people do this and the comapny goes under have to merge for a 4th time so be it thats how the world works, you don't put out a product people like you go under. This not just what they have done with their MMOs but also the offline games as well.

Before one of the Whiteknights comes and say how they must be doing well if they were doing well they wouldn't be merging they would be buying other Companies.