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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    [*]Cure Potency
    Cure potency will be affected more significantly by healing magic skill. If a player has high healing magic skill, cure potency will be greatly increased, but low healing magic skill will have almost no effect on cure potency. The effect of skill level on cure potency will vary based on the type of cure, but cures lower than Cure V will be affected the most. Note that Curaga, Cura and Waltzes will not be affected.
    • Cure I-IV: Up to 1.4 times the normal cure potency
    • Cure V-VI: Almost no change
    This part sounds good. Red Mage, Scholar, and Paladin gain more curing power and White Mage gains even more MP efficiency on lower tier cures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    With this adjustment combined with the increase of cure potency mentioned earlier, we would like to increase opportunities for mages jobs other than white mage to serve as healers.
    The Development Bros should keep in mind that people aren't going to wear equipment or use abilities that actually make individuals and groups perform worse rather than better, so I wouldn't count on this part of the change actually changing anything.

    Still, nothing is being made to suck more, so I'm happy about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    With this adjustment combined with the increase of cure potency mentioned earlier, we would like to increase opportunities for mages jobs other than white mage to serve as healers.

    The Development Bros should keep in mind that people aren't going to wear equipment or use abilities that actually make individuals and groups perform worse rather than better, so I wouldn't count on this part of the change actually changing anything.

    Still, nothing is being made to suck more, so I'm happy about that.
    help rdm curing themself after convert....
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    What about Blue Mage? Will healing magic skill new formula work on BLU spells too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    The Developer smiled and replied, "During the worst times, I was riding on your back and whipping you with a stick and laughing."
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    [...]-Dipper Yuly, Faithful Falcorr
    ※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.
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    [...] There was no promise to create gear that would counter the reduction of treasure hunter on beastmaster pets Dipper Yuly and Faithful Falcorr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    What about Blue Mage? Will healing magic skill new formula work on BLU spells too?

    does blu have healing magic skill? might work if rdm sch whm or pld sub it though.
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    Last edited by Mageoholic; 02-04-2012 at 05:58 PM.
    There is no min only max. Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mageoholic View Post
    does blu have healing magic skill? might work if rdm sch whm or pld sub it though.
    Assuming it does have a big impact, you'd want to sub Scholar for Light Arts. The question is whether Blue Mage cures are boosted enough to counter losing Cure IV (and Haste, Refresh, and whatever else /RDM gives, or Haste, Curaga, and Stona if /WHM). I somehow doubt the impact will be big enough to make people goes /SCH though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    Assuming it does have a big impact, you'd want to sub Scholar for Light Arts. The question is whether Blue Mage cures are boosted enough to counter losing Cure IV (and Haste, Refresh, and whatever else /RDM gives, or Haste, Curaga, and Stona if /WHM). I somehow doubt the impact will be big enough to make people goes /SCH though.
    BLU cures are already more powerful then Cure IV. M.Fruit and P.Emrbace are both Cure V but with less base cure power. They still receive the same scaling with skill and MND that Cure V gets, so with enough skill and MND Fruit blows Cure IV away in potency and Embrace is almost a Cure V in strength. BLU just has limited access to cure potency gear, 20~30% is achievable though.

    Honestly I don't worry about BLU becoming stronger in healing, their already the 2nd best healer in the game, yet nobody would know the difference. As long as people don't try to force RDM's into brute curing again, which I don't think they'll be doing, everything should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    BLU cures are already more powerful then Cure IV. M.Fruit and P.Emrbace are both Cure V but with less base cure power. They still receive the same scaling with skill and MND that Cure V gets, so with enough skill and MND Fruit blows Cure IV away in potency and Embrace is almost a Cure V in strength. BLU just has limited access to cure potency gear, 20~30% is achievable though.
    Yes, but with the limited information we have, they are saying that Cure V won't see much difference. Basically, we can assume that if Blue Mage spells are getting a boost, Blue Mage spells based on Cure V wouldn't get an increase. I think the question for BLU in relation to this is if it will change what sub is the most viable or not. I don't think it will given the information we have now, but it is hard to say.

    On Blue Mage's curing power... If Red Mages were as stubborn about being damage dealers only as Blue Mages are I think this game would be a lot different.
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    Last edited by Economizer; 02-05-2012 at 02:26 AM.

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    Yep! Outside Abyssea, 25 STR is about +6 base damage and +12~13 attack. For 1H weapons, +6 Base damage is a lot. Also, the Boost spell only has to be cast once every 5 minutes and costs very little MP while Dia III would have to be cast on every monster.

    Additionally, WHM can sub THF and not lose -na spells. I have a mule with RDM and WHM, and RDM only gets used in Salvage. If I could cast Temper and Gain-STR on party members, it would probably get used in Dynamis too. As it is, and as it will be, WHM is more MP efficient and offers better offensive buffs. It isn't like I'm choosing WHM or RDM because of Cure V in those events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Yep! Outside Abyssea, 25 STR is about +6 base damage and +12~13 attack. For 1H weapons, +6 Base damage is a lot. Also, the Boost spell only has to be cast once every 5 minutes and costs very little MP while Dia III would have to be cast on every monster.

    Additionally, WHM can sub THF and not lose -na spells. I have a mule with RDM and WHM, and RDM only gets used in Salvage. If I could cast Temper and Gain-STR on party members, it would probably get used in Dynamis too. As it is, and as it will be, WHM is more MP efficient and offers better offensive buffs. It isn't like I'm choosing WHM or RDM because of Cure V in those events.
    If we really talk about optimal lowman for things like dynamis/salvage etc. then... BLU/dnc+brd/thf :P
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