Battle Balance Adjustment: TP Gained through Use of a Weaponskill

[Insaniac]

Limiting TP return to 50ish is NP and I completely understand it but there is a better way to do it. I'm still convinced the reason they chose to fuck CORs was so the save TP on the SAM JA would stay useful ALL the time. A cap on TP return would mean that Hagakure would SITUATIONALLY be slightly less useful and that just simply can't be allowed.

[Pootersmash]

You both fail to realize the usefulness of Misers outside of Voidwatch which is where it will be completely useless now. I really have no problem with the VW part of it. But VW is only one event.

This exactly. right now outside VW, Miser's is just viable. decent in some situations, not so decent in others.
this will take it to usefull on only 2-3 rolls, and 100% not effective for every other roll. Buffs should always be a buff, not just
10% of the time.

[Cursed]

Is this SE trolling us?... srsly...

SE>>Hi. More nerfs. This time for all of you"
SAM>> me too?
SE>> no silly. you get a boost. you're so precious.

[saevel]

You both fail to realize the usefulness of Misers outside of Voidwatch which is where it will be completely useless now. I really have no problem with the VW part of it. But VW is only one event.

Which is what event exactly.....

Dynamis ...


"Legion" hasn't been released yet, so we have no idea how that's gonna go.

Anyhow, the problem was the way in which Misers worked, or specifically "Save TP" worked. It reduced your 100TP requirement to 80 or less. That in and of itself is borderline broken. Throw in Save TP as an atmacite and it becomes really broken.

Now I don't think SE should of changed the mechanic the way they did, instead a cap or some sort of reduction would of been a better idea. But this is SE, they nerf everything into oblivion. See Gravity I / II as a prime example.

[Vivik]

Which is what event exactly.....

Einherjar, Assaults, Anything in Abyssea, Salvage, Up coming Nyzul. Just because you don't do an event does not mean other people do not.

As far as your TP requirement maybe you can explain exactly what you mean because I have no idea what you're trying to say. Misers is a straight up TP buff meaning at a roll of 11 it give 25tp. So after they gimp it down it means without conserve TP trait you will get only 25tp after you WS making the roll pretty much useless.

[Ica]

Which is what event exactly.....

Dynamis ...

I keep forgetting SE took all events but Voidwatch out of the game. My bad, never mind. I guess this nerf is okay then.

Miser's roll is a buff. It's designed to make you more powerful then you are without it. If they want to put a cap on it, fine. But why make it so you get virtually no use from it?

[Mirabelle]

Why do people think it is broken to be able to frequently WS in an event where the mobs are just plain nasty with AoE's making toe-to-toe fighting near impossible without temps. Esp since procing is tied to hitting the right WS in the first place?

It seems to me that VW was working as intended making it useful to have a COR and several DD in a party to maximize success chances. Now they plan on Nerfing Misers roll, AoE effects, need for procs which will turn VW into BRD/SAM/WHM onry fests.

No one was complaining about VW from a mechanics standpoint. Complaints were about drop rates and rare loot hitting the floor.

What on earth did COR's do to deserve being made less useful in this event (especially since we were largely locked out of Abyssea for the last two years). Oh no, one of the least played most expensive jobs has become relevant again...quick fix it.

[Ophannus]

Wait COR was locked out of Abyssea? Pretty sure Wildfire is the most overpowered WS in Abyssea which has comprised endgame for the past 2 years.

[Mirabelle]

Wait COR was locked out of Abyssea? Pretty sure Wildfire is the most overpowered WS in Abyssea which has comprised endgame for the past 2 years.

So a 1 trick pony brew bitch was its usefuness. And that was once you got your Armageddon finished and not before. There was a lot of Abyssea content before that point (gaining abyssites, atma, zone wins, AF3 +1 seals).

But COR wasn't needed for procs, buffs, TH. It helped a bit with damage, but even with WF a COR couldn't solo anything in abyssea other than trash mobs.

Coming in once everyone had their KI's, popping a brew or two and one-shotting or two shotting NM's is hardly what I call playing COR (as fun as it is the first few times)

[Chriscoffey]

This constant nerfing of jobs while sam stays to the good is bias as hell. If any jobs needs the nerf cannon it has been sam for years YET constantly staying their "precious" child.