[dev1080] Thief - Assassin's Charge/feint proposed Adjustments

[Arcon]

[..] stuff dies so fast I don't bother to switch out THF knife (I'd forget to re-equip it!).

I think that was Karby's point. Using a DD dagger combination fulltime would give you better results than to change it, even if you did remember. Although it's true that in larger groups the difference becomes lower, but I don't assume you're all 12 hitting on Dhalmels trying to get triggers? For any kind of low level trash mob it's a lot faster to just kill with a proper dagger combination than trying to maximize TH on each mob.

[Babekeke]

I think that was Karby's point. Using a DD dagger combination fulltime would give you better results than to change it, even if you did remember. Although it's true that in larger groups the difference becomes lower, but I don't assume you're all 12 hitting on Dhalmels trying to get triggers? For any kind of low level trash mob it's a lot faster to just kill with a proper dagger combination than trying to maximize TH on each mob.

On trash I rarely solo anything, I just tag every mob that the others are killing. 2 mobs per person all tagged tends to be all the pops we need.

[Mindi]

Assassin's Charge:
While the change to min recast is really nice, the Buff the Dev's want to do to AC is totally pointless. Noone, and really NOONE needs ACC to this Ability. It is like almost allways used with SA and/or TA and wont need ACC there. And even when someone would use it outside of a WS (whyever he does... hit wrong macro?!) he wont need ACC aswell, if he does.. he need to skillup dagger
So my Suggestion would be to add another enhancement to it when you invest additional Merits into this.. good would be something like a Attack bonus, Trippleattackdmg+.. hell even Subtleblow would be more usefull then ACC lol

Feint:
Well dont have much to say about this, i dont mind it too much, but it doesnt change much either. i probably keep 4/5 or 5/5 in it just for the placebo-TH+
An enhance to what it currenty does would be better, and not enhance TH Proc chance. It would be Nice if Faint would be what it is now at 1 Merit, and when you spend additional Merits into it the crit hit evasion of the mob will be also lowered by some % (like the feather step DNC does)

and beside those 2 Merit change announces i really wish the Dev's would look into Ambush aswell.

Ambush:
This Ability is currently totaly useless. Like i said at AC.. ACC shouldnt be an issue. I really hope this Meritability will change aswell.
My suggested change to Ambush: When attacking a mob from behind the THF gets enhanced crit hitrate and crithitdmg, each merit in it further enhance the crithitrate and crithit dmg. I think this would be a really nice change to ambush, it still would require the THF to hit from behind, so it wouldn't be so powerfull and your fav BALANCE would still be there. (In addition to this, when Bully effect is on the mob it should work from any direction, like SA^^) Either keep it auto-ability with lesser effect, or make it a usable ability like NIN have Innin and make it a stronger effect

[Nynja]

Ambush:
(In addition to this, when Bully effect is on the mob it should work from any direction, like SA^^) Either keep it auto-ability with lesser effect, or make it a usable ability like NIN have Innin and make it a stronger effect

Has anyone ever tested if there was a spaghetti code mishap in regards to Bully and Ambush? When bully is active on a mob, ambush takes effect?

[Arcon]

Has anyone ever tested if there was a spaghetti code mishap in regards to Bully and Ambush? When bully is active on a mob, ambush takes effect?

Would be fun to figure out, sounds certainly plausible. That would require someone to merit Ambush, though.

[Nynja]

bottom row = ambush...theres SOME people out there with 5/5 ambush, just gotta find em

[Karbuncle]

bottom row = ambush...theres SOME people out there with 5/5 ambush, just gotta find em

And slap them senseless for being idiots.

On a more serious note. If they made Ambush work like SA, when Bully is active, its benefits come from anywhere? it'd still be useless because its what... 15 accuracy? (I think 5% Triple Attack too with the +2 relic body, But the +2 Relic Body has no haste value.. 5% Haste vs 5% Triple attack...? Not worth the 5 merits)

[Nynja]

I'm not asking on a serious note...like I said, spaghetti code, so the lulz.

[Karbuncle]

Well Derp Nynja, I know that.

[Babekeke]

bottom row = ambush...theres SOME people out there with 5/5 ambush, just gotta find em

These people don't actually play THF. They leeched it to 99 wearing pink, and wanted to merit it for completion. They probably didn't even read what they were meriting.

I hope!