Where is my elemental affinity pieces?

[Mageoholic]

Melee got Temper recently. Mages got Spontaneity. People that play both sides got both. I think we know which one is the better of the two. Seems like the Mage side or both sides should get a buff next.

Spontaneity benefits melee as well, not as much as Temper, but it provides the same bonus to both backline and frontline, as it directly impacts casting (not a specific type of casting). The noticable difference is we can use Spont. on other party members (once every 10 minutes).

We also just had a nice bonus given to us in healing, so Id say for the most part elemental, healing and melee are all sitting about where they should be in terms of job balance. Buffs to the job should focus on as many aspects of it as possible. Which is why I think this above idea should be available dependent on weapon options, and thus, position placement.

Now if only SE would fix the enfeebling and enhancing issues. Really all they have to do is let gain and temper be cast on others, let gravity and tweak the group 2's a bit (namely blind). But I would also like to see skill based adjustments so jobs using RDM or WHM as a sub can't provide a certain buff at similar power as a main RDM or WHM (except SCH which is completely fair imho). Its not like I am dropping full March /BRD, why should they drop a full haste.

[Greatguardian]

Screwing subjob Haste is a terrible idea and you should feel bad.

Seriously. There's "improvements to the job we like" and then there's "NERF ALL THE THINGS WE DON'T LIKE RAWRGARRBLE"

One of these is fucking retarded and only manages to piss off the entire community. I'll let you figure out which.

[Mageoholic]

Screwing subjob Haste is a terrible idea and you should feel bad.

Seriously. There's "improvements to the job we like" and then there's "NERF ALL THE THINGS WE DON'T LIKE RAWRGARRBLE"

One of these is fucking retarded and only manages to piss off the entire community. I'll let you figure out which.

Wondering where I said screwing subjob haste. I think it should stay at 15%. I think that native enhancing jobs should cast it better than a job with no skill. Im sorry (not practical I know) a WAR/WHM casting haster for a full 15%, a DRK/RDM casting haste for 15% and refresh for 3MP/tic.

In the same vein as the healing magic change natural enhancing magic jobs (RDM, WHM, SCH LA /rdm or whm) should be able to land a more potent spell. It leaves values how they are and allows job with skill to push it higher. Its either that or a second teir, but why waste a spell slot with a spell that value can be tweaked by ingame funcitions.

Its hardly a nerf, its a buff to the jobs who cast this spell in the first place.

[Greatguardian]

Wondering where I said screwing subjob haste. I think it should stay at 15%. I think that native enhancing jobs should cast it better than a job with no skill. Im sorry (not practical I know) a WAR/WHM casting haster for a full 15%, a DRK/RDM casting haste for 15% and refresh for 3MP/tic.

In the same vein as the healing magic change natural enhancing magic jobs (RDM, WHM, SCH LA /rdm or whm) should be able to land a more potent spell. It leaves values how they are and allows job with skill to push it higher. Its either that or a second teir, but why waste a spell slot with a spell that value can be tweaked by ingame funcitions.

Its hardly a nerf, its a buff to the jobs who cast this spell in the first place.

I don't read many of the massive walls in other threads any more, so I'm working off of what was posted in the piece I replied to - which was simply "Subjobs should not get full Haste". There were no quantifiers. Either way, this doesn't really do anything for Red Mage. Straight up. The job isn't losing thunder to Bard or to Blm/Rdm. In the Enhancing department, it's White Mage that can do everything RDM can but better - and any adjustment to Haste would still have WHM capping out.

In the end, all it does is make it so that Bards can't help their Whm with Haste rotations. It won't make the Whms suddenly require a Rdm to help, it will just annoy them. I won't even get into the kinds of fucked up that would have to be going on for a Drk/Rdm to usurp a Red Mage's party slot because they're able to Haste and Refresh1.

I am typically on the same page as you in terms of what Red Mage needs right now. Unique party enhancements, new enfeebles with unique effects, and a buff to T2 enfeebles so that they're worth a damn and actually land. Messing with old spells in an attempt to disrupt the hierarchy, however, is just going to piss people off.

[Ophannus]

Should get traits that buff Convert similar to Stalwart Soul and Souleater. /RDM Convert shouldn't be as strong as RDM main convert, it's not fair considering how few abilities and spells RDM natively gets that no other job can use. Let /RDMs keep their /Haste, /Refresh1 and /Cure IV but let us keep our Convert.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I'm definitely not near 700 attack /nin without food, but I only have roughly +60 attack in geat or so not counting attack from +str.

But I'm pretty sure I'd need at least another +100 attack in gear minimum without food. Going to check now actually.


EDIT: didn't take all my gear out but at 528 with weapon rings earrings and back on, and the visible slots only contribute +5 str to my attack. No gain-str but it's not close without food.

[Crimson_Slasher]

Logging on but i think i was at 711 in ws set with Gain-STR up. Ill edit in gearset and screenshot, could be mistaken but pretty sure thats what i was at. Havent played ffxi in a few days, been playing some Wakfu for a break so memory might be foggy.

Edit1:
Seems i was mistaken, still in current ws gear im sitting at 641 attack (629 if i swap anguinus belt for warwolf) before food. I must have had food up when i checked last.

Enhancing build of 478 (needs +2 relic body and gloves i think, which will put me at 496 +24 gain spell? Also have zenith +1 head ill re-aug sometime for enhancing skill.) Ill see if i can put a screenshot up here.

Edit2:
Cant be bothered to upload a screenshot right now. Im also a death blossom rdm so i whore str/att if that matters.

[Thanotos]

Logging on but i think i was at 711 in ws set with Gain-STR up. Ill edit in gearset and screenshot, could be mistaken but pretty sure thats what i was at. Havent played ffxi in a few days, been playing some Wakfu for a break so memory might be foggy.

Edit1:
Seems i was mistaken, still in current ws gear im sitting at 641 attack (629 if i swap anguinus belt for warwolf) before food. I must have had food up when i checked last.

Enhancing build of 478 (needs +2 relic body and gloves i think, which will put me at 496 +24 gain spell? Also have zenith +1 head ill re-aug sometime for enhancing skill.) Ill see if i can put a screenshot up here.

Edit2:
Cant be bothered to upload a screenshot right now. Im also a death blossom rdm so i whore str/att if that matters.

interesting cause on drk/sam no buffs no food capped GS skill full str merits, with some attack from bale and twilight, i only have 778 attack, and being a rdm using a single handed weapon or duel wield, you dont get the 2h str bonus to attack, not that i am calling you a liar, i just want to know how it is done.

[saevel]

DB requires a slightly different WS setup then CDC. DB tends to whore up STR / Attack while CDC focus's on DEX / Attack.

As Elvann 99 RDM/NIN with +12 STR merits, no buffs

103 +21 STR
84 +20 DEX
556 Attack
25% Haste

CDC
103 +22 STR
84 +66 DEX
554 Attack

Now you can toss on +25 to either STR or DEX, I've been favoring DEX lately and +20% DA from buffs.

Food is usually Bison Steak if I'm feeling cheap. That's another +93 Attack. Red Curry / Buns nets you about +130 attack, might not be worth it for some. I have a cooking friend who would turn any dragon meat we had into Steak / Curry, so I usually have a bunch of stacks in my inventory.

/DRK and /WAR both let you get considerably higher attack values. /NIN still gives higher over all damage, but /DRK does have utility.

My current conundrum has to deal with Goliard Saio. I recently acquired it from Nyzule Isle with friends and am looking if it has a place in my Tp build.

Head: Zelus
Neck: Twilight (Rancor if I'm feeling frisky)
Ear1: Suppa
Ear2: Brutal
Body: AJ (don't laugh it gave 18 attack)
Hands: Brego
Ring1: Keen
Ring2: Rajas
Back: Atheling
Waist: Phasmida
Legs: Calmecac
Feet: Eurus's

Alternatives are,
Body: Goliard, ACP (10 atk 10 acc, need to change eventually)
Legs: Tumbler Trunks (5 DEX 18 Attack)
Feet: Rager ledelsens (10 acc 12 atk)

I've been eyeballing the feet as the only thing they give me is +4% haste but with a -3 sTP penalty. I would be swapping 18 atk 3 acc out for 10 acc 12 atk and 3 sTP.

[Crimson_Slasher]

With only gain str (+22 STR) buff active, also max str merits. I am a hume male if that helps any.