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  1. #171
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    The fact they are pulling TH3 isn't even the part I find most annoying. (Dynamis never needed it anyway, Only really used it in overworld fights for this and that) It's the fact this is just another strike at beast which just keep coming and coming. Players helped create the Loner BST image just like how they made ninjas into blink tanks. Now SE wants BST to "shed" that imagine, by slowly bringing it down to everyone else's level (Master + Pet = power of one job. Basically cutting both's power in half). I also have good reason to believe BSTs will be seeing more nerfs in the near future. I foresee a gimping to both pet foods (the kind of gimp that makes say theta biscuit once per 10 minutes, meaning forced alternation of food types to use at each reward interval) and mulsums or something along those lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  2. #172
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    I don't think this has anything to do with Dyna at all TBH. If anyone bothers to explore the wide world of Vana Diel anymore, you might notice every scroll camping face-smash-named RMT is now a perle set BST with Dippers hoarding everything from SSG to Castle O. BST will still have no problem netting out lots of coins due to the proc system. Its the old, non-proc stuff that this is targeting IMO. This is a ninja RMT nerf more than a BST nerf, even if it does slightly impact actual players.

    Im a THF and a BST and I dont see a ton of difference between TH3 >> TH10 but there is quite a difference between TH1 and TH3. So this will nerf those 24/7 RMT campers, hopefully at least.
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  3. #173
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    So once again SE takes on RMT by punishing legit players? I don't see how it can be a big difference to RMT but only slightly impact actual players. Some of us legitimately like to do older stuff where there are no procs or things like soloing Abyssea NMs where we simply aren't able to proc. Now we have to earn back the ability to do that as effectively (maybe) as we do now because SE can't be bothered to do a little police work.

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. This has been Team Tanaka's method for combating RMT all along. Ironic that it's Tanaka's type of content that is what inspires the RMT in the first place.
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  4. #174
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    It's not RMT, has nothing to do with it. I did have an intresting thought however. So, THFs are rejoicing that BST is losing TH3 at the same time recipes to make those pets are being less restrictive to compensate. This brings us to Yuly and Lesser Chigoes which are currently one of the highest profit items on the AH. These chigoes are a low rate in harvesting and are much more regularly farmed via steal method and guess which job is profiting most from those Chigoes? Just a humorous thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I just love how you guys act like whatever Dynamis zone you're in belongs to you, and no one else should be there to get in your way. The sense of entitlement is staggering. I honestly think that's the real issue here. If it wasn't BSTs it'd be another job, other players, parties, or alliances. You guys just want the zone to yourself and anything SE does to hurt others' chances while preserving your own will be A-OK with you. Well, sorry, but Dynamis doesn't work that way anymore. You can team up, compete, or wait for SE to discover the miracle of instancing. Welcome to Neo-Dynamis! Welcome to FFXI! Enjoy your stay!
    How about you bust the chops of the 99 Cor with 90 Arma in FULL PINK soloing dyna. Or other jobs i've seen with emps and relics running around in perle gear or pink gear on jobs other than bst in dyna. That number is astounding on Ragnarok.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I don't solo Dyna, and my BST is geared quite well and I'm still getting nerfed. I bet you don't have anything resembling an intelligent response for that, do you? Of course not and neither does anyone else from the highest level devs to the smartest of the player base.
    no, you're not nerfed, they said they add "pet: TH+" gear, you just have to work to get em.(and maybe they will be more than one meaning you get an higher TH )


    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I just love how you guys act like whatever Dynamis zone you're in belongs to you, and no one else should be there to get in your way. The sense of entitlement is staggering. I honestly think that's the real issue here. If it wasn't BSTs it'd be another job, other players, parties, or alliances. You guys just want the zone to yourself and anything SE does to hurt others' chances while preserving your own will be A-OK with you. Well, sorry, but Dynamis doesn't work that way anymore. You can team up, compete, or wait for SE to discover the miracle of instancing. Welcome to Neo-Dynamis! Welcome to FFXI! Enjoy your stay!
    no, the issue that for >10 of those 15bst the only work they ever done for bst are:
    lvl it to 30
    farm gil to pay aby leech pos .
    buy jug
    go dyna
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    Last edited by hiko; 02-04-2012 at 11:34 PM.

  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    no, you're not nerfed, they said they add "pet: TH+" gear, you just have to work to get em.(and maybe they will be more than one meaning you get an higher TH )

    K, we'll chop some Store TP traits off SAM but add some Store TP gear to VW and Legion. It's not a nerf so it's all good right?


    no, the issue that for >10 of those 15bst the only work they ever done for bst are:
    lvl it to 30
    farm gil to pay aby leech pos .
    buy jug
    go dyna

    99.99% of all statistics are made up, including that one. So what if they raced to 99 and are running around in perle/aurore? It's not like a THF or DNC has to be tricked out in cutting edge gear to do Dynamis either. Would you be happier if it was career BSTs in high end, hard to get gear doing the same thing? I doubt it.

    If it's so easy for a BST to gimp it up and own Dynamis, which I don't doubt since it's not exactly filled with IT++ mobs... Why aren't all those who see how awesome and easy it is doing it too?

    It's like complaining about the rich getting richer when you know their path to success and could easily follow it yourself, but instead you want someone else to cut off their path even if it doesn't benefit you at all just to justify your own choices.
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    Last edited by Camiie; 02-05-2012 at 02:14 AM.

  8. #178
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    I've been thinking a lot about this, and Indians did enjoy scalping Indian givers... People gravely detest having to work for something they used to have. I'd like to see why producers like alienating their audience like that
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    Last edited by Juilan; 02-05-2012 at 01:37 AM.
    I have the final form of Aegis, it has 40 Def Augments Shield bash V and Magic Damage Taken -45%... The ultimate form!

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    Tbh, I get tired of BST's claiming two mobs with them and their pet in Dynamis and coming in stealing camps. This is welcoming news for me. GF bst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    Tbh, I get tired of BST's claiming two mobs with them and their pet in Dynamis and coming in stealing camps. This is welcoming news for me. GF bst.
    I've had camps stolen throughout the years by non-BSTs and I never ever thought that another job or aspect of the game should be nerfed for my benefit. Obviously a nerf affects a lot more than the small number of people bothering you. I guess you're just a lot more selfish than I am. That's what I see in the proponents of this nerf. Selfishness and entitlement.
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