Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Elleanore]

Pet with TH1 to start with, then comes gear, even if from high tier VW, that's where best gear comes from anyway. As for now anyone can burn BST to 99, buy perle and jugs and make 200 coin/run. That nerf only sounds reasonable to me.

[Xilk]

Pet with TH1 to start with, then comes gear, even if from high tier VW, that's where best gear comes from anyway. As for now anyone can burn BST to 99, buy perle and jugs and make 200 coin/run. That nerf only sounds reasonable to me.

wow. I never did understand the player hate directed at jobs.

If I don't like a job, I won't play it. If someone else likes it... good for them!

When I heard about Astral Burns, I thought it was cool and itnteresting. it made me want to understand the game mechanics more.
When I saw how 2-handers use /sam to pile on the tp and self-skillchains, i thought it was impressive
When I saw BLM''s AoE and mass nuke down legions of Mobs in Abyssea I thought it was sweet!

I didn't think, "they shouldn't have that!" I didn't think rdm/nin should be nerfed forhow it solo's NM's.

bst seems to really offend some players, and I just can't understand it. I started playing as a mnk. i tried out all the jobs. I like bst most and have mostly played bst ever since. Its fun.

[Sargent]

I shoulda clarified, "bring a THF or /THF"

Why should BST have the same level of TH as a THF? You still have your ridiculous amount of pet melee damage, as well as your own damage, so you still have a faster killspeed then THF/DNC. And since it's not an all out "remove TH", you still get some coins

And yes, subbing THF will mean you lose out on DNC procs and dual wield. The idea is you pick one.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I shoulda clarified, "bring a THF or /THF"

Why should BST have the same level of TH as a THF? You still have your ridiculous amount of pet melee damage, as well as your own damage, so you still have a faster killspeed then THF/DNC. And since it's not an all out "remove TH", you still get some coins

And yes, subbing THF will mean you lose out on DNC procs and dual wield. The idea is you pick one.

The idea is you spend time getting items from Legion to up your TH back to +3 and repeat the same as is is now..

[Ica]

I shoulda clarified, "bring a THF or /THF"

Why should BST have the same level of TH as a THF?

They don't. Their pet does, cause it's a THF pet. Also, BST currently does not have TH+ equipment like THF does, so we can't get anything higher than the base TH of specific pets.

[Insaniac]

I don't think this is something to be that upset over considering they are adding a pet TH item. That being said I don't really see why they are bothering. It's not gonna stop BSTs from soloing dynamis or anything else they were doing.

[Xilk]

There is a HUGE difference between th1 and th2. There is also a not-quite-so huge, but still very noticeable difference between th3 and th4.

You know what, bst also get the the fencer, attack bonus, and crit damage + traits on their pets when they are warriors... and don't get me started on the mnk and pld pet traits!! Pet mechanics are a bit different from player mechanics. Some players are good at capitalizing on that.

Scream bloody murder! pups have whm, blm, rdm, rng, and PLD in their pets!!

There are still lots of situations situations where pet mechanics work against a pet job in favor of non-pet jobs...

[FrankReynolds]

As an adjustment to the balance of Treasure Hunter at level 99, the below pets will have their Treasure Hunter effect changed to Treasure Hunter I.

-Dipper Yuly
-Faithful Falcorr
※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

Here is the premise regarding the hierarchy of the Treasure Hunter effect (from strongest to weakest).

1. Thief
2. Ranger
3. Support job thief
4. Other jobs

※As ranger received the new “Bounty Shot” as a support ability, it is now slightly more beneficial than a support job Treasure Hunter when effectively used.

However, with the increase in the level cap from 75 to 99, this ordering has started to become ambiguous, so in order to clearly define the premise again, our current aim was to find adjustments appropriate to follow this.

The prime example of changes to this hierarchy were with the increase in the Treasure Hunter effect for familiar pets due to the level cap increase and we would like to start by adjusting this area.

The development team looked into routes to adjust this, such as changing the pet’s job, lowering the stats of the pets in exchange for not lowering the Treasure Hunter effect, revamping the pet’s special abilities, etc., but ultimately they made the decision to preserve their fighting capabilities and only reduce their Treasure Hunter effect. To go along with this adjustment, we will be easing up on the materials required to synthesize “Lucky Broth” which created with the basis of the Treasure Hunter effect in mind.
※The current focus of this adjustment is for familiar pets, but in the future if automatons and avatars are given Treasure Hunter, we will be adopting the same policy.


To give a bit more insight, the development team looked into a completely different direction on this at first, exploring if they could establish proper balance to follow this idea by changing the drop rate table. However, if they were to change the drop rates, the obtainment rate for every single item would change and the effects would be too drastic, so they came to the conclusion that they would not be adjusting the drop rates.

This is just going to create a lot of pissed off (rightfully so) beast masters.

You have a whole laundry list of complaints about drop rates.

Why not increase the effect (not the arbitrary number, the actual rate of drops) from thief instead. Or beef up thief as a DD / party support job, so that it isn't stuck being treasure hunter whore, and it can go make some loot off of treasure hunter like beast does.

Sort of off topic: What happened to not nerfing jobs?

[Cordareo]

BST should have at least the same TH as /THF *ninja edit with Yuly/Falcorr not ourselves. It was one of the few things that made us worth bringing to anything. I get to do seal farming as BST cause I can tank and TH, and I can duo Dynamis with my friend and actually do well. BST will not be worth anything for Legion and is already worthless in Voidwatch. Dynamis is old, no matter how many times you rehash the content and to nerf a job solely based on one piece of content is so irresponsible. I don't even mind giving up main job THF TH tier for sub job, but to drop it to 1? That's just awful. Drop it to TH2 and don't make pet TH gear. Of course my opinion doesn't matter, just wanted a place to vent my feelings.

[Necross]

To give a bit more insight, the development team looked into a completely different direction on this at first, exploring if they could establish proper balance to follow this idea by changing the drop rate table. However, if they were to change the drop rates, the obtainment rate for every single item would change and the effects would be too drastic, so they came to the conclusion that they would not be adjusting the drop rates.

How about fixing TH to where it actually meant something in the first place, years ago before you all "fixed" TH.. TH4 MEANT something. now i sit here watching THF's all day get TH up to TH10.. and get a crystal drop.. seriously?