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    Player Ica's Avatar
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    The point was is the person I initially responded to said to bring a THF. Well, if you're a solo BST, you can't bring anyone. What if someone doesn't have THF/DNC leveled?
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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ica View Post
    The point was is the person I initially responded to said to bring a THF. Well, if you're a solo BST, you can't bring anyone. What if someone doesn't have THF/DNC leveled?
    Thats an Entirely separate issue! If you don't have THF/DNC leveled, TH1 is still > TH0, So BST is viable, You'll just get slightly less drops.

    Frankly TH2 Is where the best increase comes in, TH3+ is little notice. I hate Nerfs for sure, But it could be worse ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Again, you're wrong. Read the original post that Ica quoted. I understand perfectly that he's saying thf is not hard but he is completly missing the point of the "soloing" as a bst part. Nobody was even talking about soloing on thf.
    Yes. I'm aware.

    His response too "I'm soloing on BST" was "Change to THF/DNC Then". He was implying "Yeah, I Acknowledge you can't Duo while Soloing as its an Oxymoron, Theres an Alternative, Its switching jobs".

    Perhaps you do not understand the thought pattern, as such, The leap from "Soloing on BST/DNC, Bring a THF Friend", and "I can't bring a THF when i solo", to "Then go THF instead of BST", Was perhaps a leap too far, or the concept is becoming too complex at this point.

    I Apologize if this misunderstanding is causing you any undue frustration as it would appear.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 02-03-2012 at 08:47 AM.

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    THing shud be left to THFs, not really a nerf in my eyes, just alittle less coin i guess.
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    Player Calamity's Avatar
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    thf solos so damn slow though. I really doubt the TH will put thf on top when I can proc/kill 25-50% more mobs in the same amount of time
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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamity View Post
    thf solos so damn slow though. I really doubt the TH will put thf on top when I can proc/kill 25-50% more mobs in the same amount of time
    Duo really help with THF.

    I have no problems on THF, Today in Dynamis-Tavnazia(Fixed) as THF + WHM i net myself 300 Currency and about 15 Forgotten Items. Then again, I have Mandau and You'll never see Pink on me.

    THF is slightly more demanding than BST, BST Was basically idiot proof to where a gimp could do it. THF you may actually have to gear your job above Aurore... :X (not you specifically btw, a generalization)
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    Player Calamity's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Duo really help with THF.

    I have no problems on THF, Today in Dynamis-Tavnazia(Fixed) as THF + WHM i net myself 300 Currency and about 15 Forgotten Items. Then again, I have Mandau and You'll never see Pink on me.

    THF is slightly more demanding than BST, BST Was basically idiot proof to where a gimp could do it. THF you may actually have to gear your job above Aurore... :X (not you specifically btw, a generalization)
    Maybe, but there's still a world of difference between a bandwagon bst and someone who actually cares about the job. Most of the people who jumped on bst after learning how effective it was in dyna still kill much slower than the few "real" bsts I see running around.
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    Player Vandheer's Avatar
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    As an adjustment to the balance of Treasure Hunter at level 99, the below pets will have their Treasure Hunter effect changed to Treasure Hunter I.

    -Dipper Yuly
    -Faithful Falcorr
    ※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.
    As much as I disapprove of reducing Treasure Hunter on Beastmaster I am curious about the "Pet: Treasure Hunter" gear. At least make the gear reasonable to obtain for Beastmasters and other pet jobs alike. That leads me to my question will these "Pet: Treasure Hunter +" be Beastmaster exclusive or will jobs like SMN, PUP, and DRG be able to reap the benefits as-well? Either case it could be interesting given their is enough pieces of it and it is reasonable to obtain...

    Here is the premise regarding the hierarchy of the Treasure Hunter effect (from strongest to weakest).
    1. Thief
    2. Ranger
    3. Support job thief
    4. Other jobs
    As for the proposed Treasure Hunter hierarchy why should subbing Thief get you you more Treasure Hunter then having a Thief pet as a Beastmaster? Beastmasters are using their call beast pet slot to call the specific pet with Treasure Hunter as opposed to using a pet that is a better tank. Leaving Beastmasters with treasure hunter isn't game breaking because they aren't going to solo huge mobs with it. Instead it gives Beastmasters a few events they can simply be better at as every job should have its own niche.

    ※As ranger received the new “Bounty Shot” as a support ability, it is now slightly more beneficial than a support job Treasure Hunter when effectively used.
    Aside from disagreeing about the Beastmaster changes I like the idea of adjusting Ranger's bounty shot (or maybe just giving them treasure hunter...) to give people more incentive to bring a ranger with them when a thief isn't around.

    The point I'm tying to get at i suppose is, lets not screw around with a job that will most likely not be sought after in new content as it is. Instead you could spend your time making it more desirable? If there's no stopping this Beastmaster nerf lets at least get the "Pet: Treasure Hunter" Gear right Camate. D:
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    ~ BST 99, SAM 96, DRG 96, BLU 91, THF 90 ~
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    Player Babygyrl's Avatar
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    i love this, i never understood why BSt got TH in the firstp lace, that should really be thief only ( i dont get why ranger has it either)
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    *BabyGyrl* Ragnarok Server~ 99 THF WHM RDM BLM DRG Husband Doluka <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babygyrl View Post
    i love this, i never understood why BSt got TH in the firstp lace, that should really be thief only ( i dont get why ranger has it either)
    because thf's were whining that they only got to go places for TH.
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    Choh Moui | Rongo-Nango | Lhu Mhakaracca | Lungo-Nango | Nyumomo
    --Beastmaster Forever--

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    Player Ica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babygyrl View Post
    i love this, i never understood why BSt got TH in the firstp lace, that should really be thief only ( i dont get why ranger has it either)
    If it should be THF only, then yes, take it away from RNG. Why should RNG get TH2 when a BSTs THF pet gets TH1 only?
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