Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Sp1cyryan]

Obviously you do not play BST (or maybe you do but you're clueless), otherwise you would've known why THF pets are so popular among BST (hint: it was because of a certain trait). No, BST aren't going to die because of this, career bst aren't Q.Q'n about this or preparing to quit the game, but do try to realize that nerfing a trait on a pet where the trait is the main reason for using the pet in the first place (warranted or not) is a pretty big deal.

It's pretty useless trying to explain the mechanics of BST to someone who has most likely never touched the job and just seems to have just jumped on the bandwagon of people foaming at the mouth in anticipation of a bst nerf because they think it will clear dyanmis of all the perle/pink BSTs. Take a look at all the level 76+ jug pets BST has access to (~15 of them)... Wonder why you rarely see BST (who actually know what they're doing) running around with raptors, Lizards, Apkallu, lolfrog, leeches, flytrap, Fungar, Eft, Coeurl, Mandy, Fly, Lynx, Adamantoise, ect pets? Because those pets are generally useless. They have no defining traits, abilities and/or have low attack power and they fail to stand out over pets like slug, Rabbit, and Tiger.

The main reason why BST use Dipper, Falcorr is for TH (you would know this if you played BST). Sure, those pets have other uses, such as evasion or wind resistance, but Treasure Hunter is the the main reason to use those pets. If BST didn't care about Treasure Hunter (as you suggested) why the hell would they be forking out 80-100k for a stack of these jugs that sell 15~25 stacks daily? The only other pet that cost more is Adamantoise at 300k/stack and they are no where near as popular (you would know why if you played BST) ...

Top this off with the fiasco of the Jug pet poll (once again you would know this if you played bst) where Scorpion (DD pet) clearly had more votes but Falcorr (who didn't even make the top 3) won the votes any way because the developers either ignored the poll or used some sort of strange counting mechanism to skew the polls so JPs would get Falcorr (THF) which is now being nerfed for the sole reason why JPs voted for him in the first place (ie: Treasure Hunter) Then they turned around gave us a completely useless mascot pet (the frog) and the incredibly weak and useless Apkallu, where a stronger DD/Utilitly pet such as Scorpion, Kraken, Dhalmel, Ruszor, or even Slime (which I'm not to fond of) would've been light years ahead in usefulness even if they were toned down.

Treasure Hunter(I) isn't going to be the death of the BST job, nor do I see career BST rallying with torches and pitchforks Q.Q'ng about how they plan to quit because of this update (Take a look at the BST forum where CAREER bst hang out. ) Personally I do not think the nerf is merited but I do not see it being a big deal. Just wanted to point out to the bandwagoners and the clueless that TH was only a big deal for these 2 Pets, not the BST job as a whole, since some people cannot seem to tell the difference.

You really love BST. You know how I know?

No, go ahead, and take a guess.

You seemed to enjoy going on a tangent that mostly was not direct to what I was even talking about.

But, fight on dear beast champion of truth and justice with your over eagerness. By all means paint me as someone who knows nothing of BST and has never touched it. Starting your post off with that really makes me believe you be a very creditable person right out of the gate.

So do we reach the point where we talk about how these forums are about how every job wants everything and to be the best?

Too soon?

[Phafi]

about time.

[Ica]

about time.

I know right? BSTs have been dominating dynamis and other popular content with their TH pets for years.

[SNK]

I know right? BSTs have been dominating dynamis and other popular content with their TH pets for years.

Oh noes BSTs are dominating crap that nobody seriously gave two shits about before. Considering it's a job that doesn't get invites to anything at all I find this nerf pretty fucking funny. Truthfully tho the nerf won't even be noticable in my eyes.

[Rezeak]

149 coins left for me to farm so whew got in before nerf

I Kinda thought this was gonna be nerfed shame really cause it's useful for killing stuff like nms outside dyna.

Either way i'm sure you'll still farm coins faster than the pre-ruinator days ^^

If ya rage quitting cause of this just rememebr 500k-1mil a glass and 10-17 slaves was need to do what bst could do solo.

yes it'a a nerf BUT red = 100% 1 coin drop which means it's only gonna reduce the other 4-5 coin drops by like 10-20 % so it's not that big of a deal.

[Calamity]

I don't see why you'd decide that preserving fighting strength in exchange for TH. I doubt there's a bst alive that wouldn't rather have the pets themselves nerfed in exchange. We pay good money for these pets. These are in fact the two most expensive pets out there, shouldn't we get something out of that in exchange?

[Cahlum]

I am so happy thank you SE first nerf that was needed back to the Boyahda tree/ ru aun gardens with you bandwagon BSTs please

[Jile]

I am so happy thank you SE first nerf that was needed back to the Boyahda tree/ ru aun gardens with you bandwagon BSTs please

Remember how happy you are about this nerf, when they adjust SMN to make DG work the same as every other job.

... I'm just sayin.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Remember how happy you are about this nerf, when they adjust SMN to make DG work the same as every other job.

... I'm just sayin.

SMN is rubbish as it is, why would this bother it?

[Jile]

I love SMN almost as much as BST but regardless I was trying to make a valid point to a main SMN that he might relate to since it didn't seem he related to the perspective of BST's.

This entire freaking "TH problem" can be fixed by SE making TH stacking actually "work" rather than remain broken, like it is.. TH3 from a naked THF shouldn't have the same drop rate generally speaking as when something dies with (exaggerating) TH100... and presently, I believe it does for the most part...

Ppl on this thread complaining about hoarding of mobs... I have a harder time with the small groups that come in and agro all mobs and sleepga them, trying to keep them all for themselves than I ever have had from a few BST in a zone... So what's next?

The way Dynamis is now needs looked at - whether its a solo BST or some small group taking all the mobs, I personally believe the old zone limits on how many people can enter is too high to be "friendly" in the 99 world. Either Dynamis needs to have a 12 person cap on all zones - perhaps once 12 ppl enter a zone, any additional ppl would enter a different instance of that zone so things could be nicer for everyone all around? Another thought would be that if someone has red claim on a mob, any yellow mob they pull more than 10 yalms from its pop location would de-agro and go back to its pop location regardless of status like sleep/etc..

I hate to say it but.... perhaps setting 'all' mobs 'all' the time to be proc'able by everything, JA/WS/MA but make it a specific one each claim and you still have to guess which JA/WS/MA but wouldn't have to cycle mobs and camps 3 times a game day so each group could set a camp in their SeaCom and we might get more concept of 'respect of camp' that people associate with old xi tradition in xp locations (tho that didn't always happen that's the core of the complaint, lack of respect for others).