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    Player Disifer's Avatar
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    Can we augment balance rings with "Pet Treasure Hunter +1"? Wear two and get th3 again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disifer View Post
    Can we augment balance rings with "Pet Treasure Hunter +1"? Wear two and get th3 again
    Hopefully it'll be a low damage lv70 axe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmato View Post
    Hopefully it'll be a low damage lv70 axe.
    And I bet they'll rage about the injustice of having to use such a garbage weapon, and then tell the thieves its their problem for not telling SE about the inadequacies of the thief's knife and bst's shouldnt have to suffer over it.

    oh .. wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmato View Post
    Hopefully it'll be a low damage lv70 axe.
    Given that I've seen more than one person wielding the mighty axe of the fabled lizard-warrior Zoraal Ja, I do not imagine even the Development Bros could make a weapon awful enough to negatively affect those folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmato View Post
    Hopefully it'll be a low damage lv70 axe.
    This Sentence. it seems familiar to me

    Edit:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...748#post272748

    We think a like.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 02-09-2012 at 05:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    We think a like.
    I think I subconsciously stole it after reading it when it was posted.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disifer View Post
    Can we augment balance rings with "Pet Treasure Hunter +1"? Wear two and get th3 again
    No, because that would place BST too high on their new Treasure Hunter Hierarchy List. Don't forget it's now supposed to be:

    1. THF
    2. RNG (Bounty Shot)
    3. JOB/THF
    4. Anyone else

    After the nerf, giving BST even one piece of Pet:TH+1 gear would tie them with THF SJ. Even doing that upsets this list. I can't really see them doing anything more. As much as I hate it, we're never going to be able to earn back exactly what we lost if they stick to this strategy.

    It's interesting that Camate brought up other events and said it's not all about Dynamis. So, where, in the devs' eyes was the imbalance? Is it simply the fact that BST had that much TH at all? Were too many scrolls being farmed in Castle O? Were BSTs collecting too many seals in Abyssea? Is it primarily, just not entirely, Dynamis? I wouldn't think VW or WoE would be affected by TH at all since the loot comes from chests. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Is this change coming ahead of future content that will rely heavily on TH?

    When nerfs or adjustments are made, it's kinda nice to know why. I know it's not always a good idea to go into detail lest some exploit be revealed, but it's also not good to just say it's for balance.

    Since this is being taken from BST, are there going to be any adjustments to make BST more large event friendly or will there perhaps a small boost to our solo ability? Yes, I do have the nerve to ask such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    No, because that would place BST too high on their new Treasure Hunter Hierarchy List. Don't forget it's now supposed to be:

    1. THF
    2. RNG (Bounty Shot)
    3. JOB/THF
    4. Anyone else

    After the nerf, giving BST even one piece of Pet:TH+1 gear would tie them with THF SJ. Even doing that upsets this list. I can't really see them doing anything more. As much as I hate it, we're never going to be able to earn back exactly what we lost if they stick to this strategy.

    It's interesting that Camate brought up other events and said it's not all about Dynamis. So, where, in the devs' eyes was the imbalance? Is it simply the fact that BST had that much TH at all? Were too many scrolls being farmed in Castle O? Were BSTs collecting too many seals in Abyssea? Is it primarily, just not entirely, Dynamis? I wouldn't think VW or WoE would be affected by TH at all since the loot comes from chests. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Is this change coming ahead of future content that will rely heavily on TH?

    When nerfs or adjustments are made, it's kinda nice to know why. I know it's not always a good idea to go into detail lest some exploit be revealed, but it's also not good to just say it's for balance.

    Since this is being taken from BST, are there going to be any adjustments to make BST more large event friendly or will there perhaps a small boost to our solo ability? Yes, I do have the nerve to ask such things.
    I bet if anything the list gos more like this.

    1. THF
    2. RNG (Bounty Shot)
    3. JOB/THF
    4. Pets
    5. Blue Mage

    Since everyone of our tier 1 traits are far from the potency of the real trait values that every other job gets.
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    Dev team once again proves they're a buncha jerks that can't seem to grasp that the players want to have fun playing - not feel like they're working. Sorry for the adjustment? Psh. Then don't do it.

    Here's a idea:
    Increase THF damage potential.
    Bounty Shot recast lowered.
    Sub THF can now proc TH bonus at 50% the success of a THF main.
    BST pets maintain the THF AND we'll give Falcor a damage boost.

    Problem solved.

    Yeah, being nice to the player base is way too hard. Get a friggen clue. I hope the entire team eventually gets canned.

    And yeah, this message will never make it to the devs because no one at S-E truly seems to care.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 02-09-2012 at 05:26 AM.

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    A little off topic but, this seems like a good place to put this:
    Sqaure's New Hierachy of TH is THF >> RNG >> /THF >> others now right? Well, it has always bugged that rng was given TH to begin with. SE's logic makes no sense. Why give bounty shot to rng when you could have given it to COR, the PIRATE job. Pirate is related to THF much more than ranger is. Although this is not neccessarily a complaint because if COR got bounty shot, rng would probably have gotten triple shot, and I love my triple shot on cor. Just SE's logic makes my brain hurt. On another note... TH roll anyone?
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