Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Nynja]

I'd have no problem at all with them boosting THF's base TH.

They said they cant do that because they've have to revise every mobs loot distribution. Its kinda in the OP

To give a bit more insight, the development team looked into a completely different direction on this at first, exploring if they could establish proper balance to follow this idea by changing the drop rate table. However, if they were to change the drop rates, the obtainment rate for every single item would change and the effects would be too drastic, so they came to the conclusion that they would not be adjusting the drop rates.

[Camiie]

I still don't see why a BST like me has to take a hit because they're unwilling to help THF out. It only makes BST worse. That's it. That's all it does. It may not be a drastic reduction, but it's still a reduction. THF is no better off. Nothing is fixed. It's just a nerf to make some people feel better while others feel worse. I guess in that way it's balanced, but it's the only way I see.

[Nynja]

how does it make bst worse? Sub thf if you want TH2. why should bst be so special to have THF's defining trait in a pure unhindred form?

and before you turn it around and go "RNG has it"...theyre so frail and weak the concept of RNG soloing anything is beyond laughable. Not to mention their TH ability is bound to a 3 minute timer.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

how does it make bst worse? Sub thf if you want TH2. why should bst be so special to have THF's defining trait in a pure unhindred form?

and before you turn it around and go "RNG has it"...theyre so frail and weak the concept of RNG soloing anything is beyond laughable. Not to mention their TH ability is bound to a 3 minute timer.

The pet is a THF, just like other pets are other jobs. They are level 97~99 they should have the defining traits of the job.

That said, BST's will still do everything they do now. It's not as if TH really works. Luck is luck.

[Nynja]

lol im done, you guys are riding on the same garbage...

[Zinato]

While that may be true, so far BST has had what 5 jobs to work with? PLD DRK WAR MNK and THF, not many examples to work with. If a RDM pet had composure, WHM pet solace, SAM pet stp, NIN pet shadows then sure it would make more sense. The Diremite has no magic, no dread spikes, no souleater like a DRK, and Carrie/Ralphie are just "turtle" tanks not even really PLD by job trait just very high defense and low attack. The double attack and crit hit bonus of WAR, as well as guard and counter of MNK hardly sets a "defineing Job traits standard".

[SpankWustler]

To give a bit more insight, the development team looked into a completely different direction on this at first, exploring if they could establish proper balance to follow this idea by changing the drop rate table. However, if they were to change the drop rates, the obtainment rate for every single item would change and the effects would be too drastic, so they came to the conclusion that they would not be adjusting the drop rates.

This is so vague that I honestly can't tell if it's referring to high tiers of Treasure Hunter or making an adjustment to the drop system itself. I assumed the latter, since the phrase "Treasure Hunter" isn't mentioned in this paragraph at all. Maybe it means they actually did consider making high tiers of Treasure Hunter less disappointing and decided against it?

It wouldn't be the first time they've chosen to express something in the vaguest terms humanly possible.

If it is referring to Treasure Hunter, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that meeting. ".05% increase for each tier is just perfect. The ideal is achieved. Oh, hey, want to have roasted orphans for lunch?"

[Louispv]

no, you're not nerfed, they said they add "pet: TH+" gear, you just have to work to get em.(and maybe they will be more than one meaning you get an higher TH )

No, they specifically said they won't do that. It says, right there in the OP, that all other jobs will be kept inferior to a THF support job. Even with the pet TH+ gear, our TH will be kept inferior to TH2, because that is what a /THF gets.

how does it make bst worse? Sub thf if you want TH2. why should bst be so special to have THF's defining trait in a pure unhindred form?

And as soon as BST gets "THF's defining trait in a pure unhindred form" you can say that. Pets don't get to increase the TH level with every melee swing, job ability, and WS. And they definitely don't get what defines THF's job, which is Steal by the way.

[Camiie]

BST also doesn't get TH3 naked which THF does. BSTs have to use specific expensive pets to get it. THF just has to perform an offensive action on the target even if that action isn't successful. A THF can be Whiffy McWhifferton and still stick TH3 on a target.

Now, someone will say a THF can't solo Dynamis mobs naked while a BST could. That's probably true, but I wouldn't want to try it. The BST would last longer (well his pet would), but you know that's kind of the benefit of being a pet job. Neither would accomplish very much compared to someone who's even geared in perle/aurore (which seems to be what offends people the most in all this).

[Darkpearl]

A THF solo can pull 150 coins in dyna-valkurm doing rotation mobs same as BST, while BST can pull 150 coins (to 200 if very lucky cause less competition). The difference is, BST spend gils for buy pets/food etc (unless you have cooking and patience for farm ingredients) for TH3, while THF doesn't need anything to spend on and have TH5-7. Now, if you say THF TH isn't working (shit I say too that TH is a lie when I play THF) that's not a reason to gimp down BST TH. You THF guys "only", complaining on BST for bawing without even see that you are bawing as well. I think THF is always welcome in every place, and with a good equip can DD pretty well even in dynamis (hello Mandau/Twashtar/Corruscanti or whatever is name?), and got that cute ability called Bully that allow you to sa-ws from every side. For me, this BST nerf is bullshit, even if will not change much for me. No BST? I go THF. I bet all this bullshit born from Japanese players for free Dynamis.