Treasure Hunter Effect Amongst Jobs

[Camiie]

I bet when ypu play THF you fulltime your TH gear? removing SAM STP force them to "full time" more STP gear, all you have to do is equip it while you pet hit once then swap it (OMG you gimped yourself 1round per mob, just like THFs)

I don't play THF at all... Anyway, your point earlier seemed to be that taking something away then adding it back with gear wasn't a nerf. I countered you with the SAM example which you seem to consider would be a nerf. The BST would have to equip a specific piece of gear to regain what they lost just as the SAM would. So I ask again is the pet TH reduction a nerf or not?

[Protey]

Also funny that Protey brings up an example that just shows he would rather play like a petty vengeful jackass than find his own mobs.

I must be a petty vengeful jackass... I mean here I am killing one at a time and along comes a couple BST training all the rest of the mobs at once leaving none for anyone else. So in your mind when that happens I should have to go to the other side of the zone? I think not. People want to train a whole set of mobs? ok, just don't expect to have everyone else stand by getting nothing while you slowly kill all the mobs, I'm going to take some of them. Because I shouldn't have to go to the other side of the zone because you're a dick.

Ignorance is the main theme today? "you don't have the right to own multiple mobs"? Seriously? Who said it? If you suck don't cry. I bet there's many BST out there that will keep play BST in dyna. That's dyna, all ppl are enemies inside, but there's nice people that won't claim your mobs (not your mobs in term you OWN them) that you aggro/links, and there's ppl that don't hesitate claim your mobs. I prefer the first one, but if someone will grab my mobs, I'm gonna send the favor back when have a chance. But don't expect that PPL will leave you free mobs. Oh for your info, not only BST can hold 2 mobs, but even PUP or a party. So much ignorance around. You should get over it.

You're the one ignorant, and I said it. So did SE in that is the way they made the game (a mob will go yellow if you try and claim a second mob). It's not a matter of sucking, it's a matter of courtesy. I could easily just train all the mobs and have the brd horde lullaby them, but I don't, it's not a courteous thing to do.

[Darkpearl]

I must be a petty vengeful jackass... I mean here I am killing one at a time and along comes a couple BST training all the rest of the mobs at once leaving none for anyone else. So in your mind when that happens I should have to go to the other side of the zone? I think not. People want to train a whole set of mobs? ok, just don't expect to have everyone else stand by getting nothing while you slowly kill all the mobs, I'm going to take some of them. Because I shouldn't have to go to the other side of the zone because you're a dick.



You're the one ignorant, and I said it. So did SE in that is the way they made the game (a mob will go yellow if you try and claim a second mob). It's not a matter of sucking, it's a matter of courtesy. I could easily just train all the mobs and have the brd horde lullaby them, but I don't, it's not a courteous thing to do.

So what if go yellow? You gonna claim? And then? Who the fucking care I say? As I said you are a ignorant. You talk of courtesy when you go kill mobs to other PPL that staggered? Come on kiddo, I didn't say you can't steal my mobs, I just point that there's people that leave you mobs that you aggro/linked/pulled, and some will steal, and I simply said I prefer the first one. Sure go train all the mobs you want if it make you feel better. Who the fucking cares. You are just a troll to me. No point talk with a troll. You should read what you type up... "you don't have the right to own multiple mob"... sure, because are you the owner of dyna? Mah. Anyway is out topic this discussion and I end it here.

[Scribble]

I must be a petty vengeful jackass... I mean here I am killing one at a time and along comes a couple BST training all the rest of the mobs at once leaving none for anyone else. So in your mind when that happens I should have to go to the other side of the zone? I think not. People want to train a whole set of mobs? ok, just don't expect to have everyone else stand by getting nothing while you slowly kill all the mobs, I'm going to take some of them. Because I shouldn't have to go to the other side of the zone because you're a dick.

I agree with most of this and I have a BST I frequently do dyna with. I don't really have a problem with BST fighting multiple mobs, but I do have a problem with a BST fighting multiple mobs when there is nothing else around.

If I see a BST with a few mobs, no big deal. If there are several BST all with 3-4 mobs and nothing else around I will pull one. Before anyone goes off about how much of a dick I am, realize that if you're doing this then you not only slow down your own kills, but the kills of others too.

So you can hold half a dozen mobs? Good for you. Realize that it takes you longer to kill them which slows you down and it takes the ones you're holding longer to respawn which slows everyone else including you down. Why people don't understand this is beyond me.

[Zinato]

I must be a petty vengeful jackass... I mean here I am killing one at a time and along comes a couple THF training all the rest of the mobs at once leaving none for anyone else. So in your mind when that happens I should have to go to the other side of the zone? I think not. People want to train a whole set of mobs? ok, just don't expect to have everyone else stand by getting nothing while you slowly kill all the mobs, I'm going to take some of them. Because I shouldn't have to go to the other side of the zone because you're a dick.

This is what will happen when TH is pulled, if and when BST determine it to severly change farming results.

I could easily just train all the mobs and have the brd horde lullaby them, but I don't, it's not a courteous thing to do.

Thats correct it's not courteous, and I'm glad you don't do it. Others however do, people are greedy not jobs. (the BST job was not programmed to be greedy) Rejoice and mock BST all you want, if they leave another job will take their place. (And, then you will resort to stealing the yellow mob from a THF) Your statement is "I don't like greedy competition" not "I don't like BST competition". Don't confuse the two.

[Camiie]

Ah, solo BST in dyna, I wonder if I'll still get to see them as much in the near future with their pet TH going down. I <3 coming across those guys with multiple mobs on them and they proc one and go onto the next. I just go up to the one they just proc'd when it goes yellow, WS and boom free coins without having to spend time procing for me. To all of you solo BST out there who are going to naysay my comment... get over it, you don't have the right to own multiple mobs like you think you do. To everyone else... yea, you know you <3 doing it too.

So let's say a BST has 2 mobs on him. Maybe he's being greedy or maybe he just pulled an add. You grab the add? Let's say a non-BST or party has a bunch of mobs on them for whatever reason. You grab those too?

And no, I don't <3 responding to jackassery with more of the same. Rather than vindication I still feel lousy about the whole thing.

[saevel]

So let's say a BST has 2 mobs on him. Maybe he's being greedy or maybe he just pulled an add. You grab the add? Let's say a non-BST or party has a bunch of mobs on them for whatever reason. You grab those too?

And no, I don't <3 responding to jackassery with more of the same. Rather than vindication I still feel lousy about the whole thing.

Yes I do (grabbing those excess monsters). And he's right, their not adds or links, the BST's pulled them deliberately. They keep their pet on one and they fight a second, proc the second and kill it while their pet holds the other one. Then they switch over and proc / kill the one their pet is holding. Sometimes they screw up and end up having one go yellow, and that's when I'll snatch it.

You now have hordes of BST's running around Dyna doing nothing but farming currency / +2's for selling. The new rage now is to have a dual box THF involved so they can increase their currency drops. It used to be that they stuck only to the EP's but it looks like they figured out the +2s are often worth as much as the currency, so now you got hordes of BST's with a THF or WHM mule running around the DC camps.

[Karbuncle]

I think what he's saying is in Past FF titles, Steal and mug defined the THF job.

Though, Comparing 11 to past titles is not a good idea, as none of the previous games were constantly changing MMOs, and the dynamics of a single player game, an MMO, are vastly different.

[Phogg]

Funny thing is those BSTs holding mobs are the same D-bags over the years who would never take BST to any event EVER because they could not fit them within the easy confines of max/min or GTFO scenarios. Now those same douchy people are causing strife in Dyna, causing a bad image for BST all over again. Gotta love it. Its not the job, its the people. And if there's one thing this game highlights better than any other, its who the massive tools are.

It is pretty hilarious though after all these years to have people so pissed off by the Big Bad BST takin my mawbs, wahh. Cry me a river and see what it was like to be BST over the last 8 years when all content was dominated these same idiots and people who wanted to play BST were cast aside like beggars picking up whatever scraps they could solo.

Also funny that Protey brings up an example that just shows he would rather play like a petty vengeful jackass than find his own mobs. Hi kettle, are you black too?

[Phogg]

I'm not opposed to you taking mobs off them, I just find it funny to say things like "BSTs aren't entitled to all the mobs" (i.e. they are acting selfishly and like jackasses), then following that up with "I shouldn't have to go somewhere else because me me me, so I wait for them to proc them and then kill them because I'm a jackass".