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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    how does it make bst worse? Sub thf if you want TH2. why should bst be so special to have THF's defining trait in a pure unhindred form?

    and before you turn it around and go "RNG has it"...theyre so frail and weak the concept of RNG soloing anything is beyond laughable. Not to mention their TH ability is bound to a 3 minute timer.
    The pet is a THF, just like other pets are other jobs. They are level 97~99 they should have the defining traits of the job.

    That said, BST's will still do everything they do now. It's not as if TH really works. Luck is luck.
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    lol im done, you guys are riding on the same garbage...

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    While that may be true, so far BST has had what 5 jobs to work with? PLD DRK WAR MNK and THF, not many examples to work with. If a RDM pet had composure, WHM pet solace, SAM pet stp, NIN pet shadows then sure it would make more sense. The Diremite has no magic, no dread spikes, no souleater like a DRK, and Carrie/Ralphie are just "turtle" tanks not even really PLD by job trait just very high defense and low attack. The double attack and crit hit bonus of WAR, as well as guard and counter of MNK hardly sets a "defineing Job traits standard".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    To give a bit more insight, the development team looked into a completely different direction on this at first, exploring if they could establish proper balance to follow this idea by changing the drop rate table. However, if they were to change the drop rates, the obtainment rate for every single item would change and the effects would be too drastic, so they came to the conclusion that they would not be adjusting the drop rates.
    This is so vague that I honestly can't tell if it's referring to high tiers of Treasure Hunter or making an adjustment to the drop system itself. I assumed the latter, since the phrase "Treasure Hunter" isn't mentioned in this paragraph at all. Maybe it means they actually did consider making high tiers of Treasure Hunter less disappointing and decided against it?

    It wouldn't be the first time they've chosen to express something in the vaguest terms humanly possible.

    If it is referring to Treasure Hunter, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that meeting. ".05% increase for each tier is just perfect. The ideal is achieved. Oh, hey, want to have roasted orphans for lunch?"
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    BST also doesn't get TH3 naked which THF does. BSTs have to use specific expensive pets to get it. THF just has to perform an offensive action on the target even if that action isn't successful. A THF can be Whiffy McWhifferton and still stick TH3 on a target.

    Now, someone will say a THF can't solo Dynamis mobs naked while a BST could. That's probably true, but I wouldn't want to try it. The BST would last longer (well his pet would), but you know that's kind of the benefit of being a pet job. Neither would accomplish very much compared to someone who's even geared in perle/aurore (which seems to be what offends people the most in all this).
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    A THF solo can pull 150 coins in dyna-valkurm doing rotation mobs same as BST, while BST can pull 150 coins (to 200 if very lucky cause less competition). The difference is, BST spend gils for buy pets/food etc (unless you have cooking and patience for farm ingredients) for TH3, while THF doesn't need anything to spend on and have TH5-7. Now, if you say THF TH isn't working (shit I say too that TH is a lie when I play THF) that's not a reason to gimp down BST TH. You THF guys "only", complaining on BST for bawing without even see that you are bawing as well. I think THF is always welcome in every place, and with a good equip can DD pretty well even in dynamis (hello Mandau/Twashtar/Corruscanti or whatever is name?), and got that cute ability called Bully that allow you to sa-ws from every side. For me, this BST nerf is bullshit, even if will not change much for me. No BST? I go THF. I bet all this bullshit born from Japanese players for free Dynamis.
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    Ten ni hirefusuna ware koso kami da ~

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    Ah, solo BST in dyna, I wonder if I'll still get to see them as much in the near future with their pet TH going down. I <3 coming across those guys with multiple mobs on them and they proc one and go onto the next. I just go up to the one they just proc'd when it goes yellow, WS and boom free coins without having to spend time procing for me. To all of you solo BST out there who are going to naysay my comment... get over it, you don't have the right to own multiple mobs like you think you do. To everyone else... yea, you know you <3 doing it too.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protey View Post
    Ah, solo BST in dyna, I wonder if I'll still get to see them as much in the near future with their pet TH going down. I <3 coming across those guys with multiple mobs on them and they proc one and go onto the next. I just go up to the one they just proc'd when it goes yellow, WS and boom free coins without having to spend time procing for me. To all of you solo BST out there who are going to naysay my comment... get over it, you don't have the right to own multiple mobs like you think you do. To everyone else... yea, you know you <3 doing it too.
    No one does, doesn't stop half the WAR population taking all the enemies in Abyssea zones etcetera...

    So.... Get over it.
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    Player Darkpearl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Protey View Post
    you don't have the right to own multiple mobs like you think you do.
    Ignorance is the main theme today? "you don't have the right to own multiple mobs"? Seriously? Who said it? If you suck don't cry. I bet there's many BST out there that will keep play BST in dyna. That's dyna, all ppl are enemies inside, but there's nice people that won't claim your mobs (not your mobs in term you OWN them) that you aggro/links, and there's ppl that don't hesitate claim your mobs. I prefer the first one, but if someone will grab my mobs, I'm gonna send the favor back when have a chance. But don't expect that PPL will leave you free mobs. Oh for your info, not only BST can hold 2 mobs, but even PUP or a party. So much ignorance around. You should get over it.
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    Ten ni hirefusuna ware koso kami da ~

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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    K, we'll chop some Store TP traits off SAM but add some Store TP gear to VW and Legion. It's not a nerf so it's all good right?
    I bet when ypu play THF you fulltime your TH gear? removing SAM STP force them to "full time" more STP gear, all you have to do is equip it while you pet hit once then swap it (OMG you gimped yourself 1round per mob, just like THFs)
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