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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    Tbh, I get tired of BST's claiming two mobs with them and their pet in Dynamis and coming in stealing camps. This is welcoming news for me. GF bst.
    I've had camps stolen throughout the years by non-BSTs and I never ever thought that another job or aspect of the game should be nerfed for my benefit. Obviously a nerf affects a lot more than the small number of people bothering you. I guess you're just a lot more selfish than I am. That's what I see in the proponents of this nerf. Selfishness and entitlement.
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    Yeah, nearly 90% of the BST's in Dynamis are always Perle. You can tell its a burnt job solely for Dynamis. Nothing selfish about it really. All i see them doing is encouraging BST's to work for the best gear, wgich is what most BST's atm need to learn.. Respect to those that have been playing the job for years, I got no problem with that.
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    Last edited by Vosslerr; 02-05-2012 at 03:50 AM.

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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    You'd have to be pretty naive to think that the bst population shot up after the changes to dynamis and the knowledge that with minimal gear and effort you can pull in more currency than any other solo job, and that they arent related.
    That's how they want to play. Dynamis is a free for all zone like most every other. You don't like it? Tough. That's not a valid reason for something to be nerfed. You don't like their gear or their play style? Don't play with them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    Yeah, nearly 90% of the BST's in Dynamis are always Perle. You can tell its a burnt job solely for Dynamis. Nothing selfish about it really. All i see them doing is encouraging BST's to work for the best gear, wgich is what most BST's atm need to learn.. Respect to those that have been playing the job for years, I got no problem with that.
    I have been playing the job for years and no one owes me a damn thing. I don't deserve anyone's respect for playing a video game and neither does anyone else. Respect for being a person? Yeah. For playing FFXI? lol.. No.

    As for earning back something through gear that we already had? I think you only find that acceptable because it's not you having to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    That's how they want to play. Dynamis is a free for all zone like most every other. You don't like it? Tough. That's not a valid reason for something to be nerfed. You don't like their gear or their play style? Don't play with them.
    way to ignore something thats as close to as fact as can be without being able to actually being able to confirm it as fact. Dynamis gets an overhaul, widespread reports are coming out that with minimal effort and AH-tier gear a bst can walk out with more currency than any other solo job, all of a sudden the number of bst's rise...and you think its unrelated?

    and yeah, it does deserve a nerf. THF will NEVER be getting any positive adjustments (even a damn native subtle blow) because of treasure hunter, yet it makes sense that a bst with 2 pets can recieve the same native treasure hunter effect? ok...
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    way to ignore something thats as close to as fact as can be without being able to actually being able to confirm it as fact. Dynamis gets an overhaul, widespread reports are coming out that with minimal effort and AH-tier gear a bst can walk out with more currency than any other solo job, all of a sudden the number of bst's rise...and you think its unrelated?

    and yeah, it does deserve a nerf. THF will NEVER be getting any positive adjustments (even a damn native subtle blow) because of treasure hunter, yet it makes sense that a bst with 2 pets can recieve the same native treasure hunter effect? ok...

    It's related, but it isn't a problem. So what? BST is an outstanding soloer even without top notch gear? Well stop the presses! We've got the story of the decade right here! BST is a job who's sole accepted purpose is to be a soloer. They probably SHOULD be better at it than any other job since they sadly have nothing else to offer. SE tosses them a bit of TH since they're usually on their own, and it's all of a sudden Armageddon.

    A WHM is still the best healer in game even if they aren't tricked out. A DD job is still going to do more DPS than a non-DD job. A half-assed BST is going to solo better than a job with less natural soloing ability. That's just how it is.

    If you want something good for THF then ask for something good for THF. Taking a wiz in someone else's Cheerios doesn't do a thing for you unless you just get a thrill out of being vindictive. I'd like to think you aren't that type, but many people in life seem to be. Heck, I know I don't count for much but I'd be behind THF getting a boost. I know you guys have had it rough for a long time, and I'd be glad to see things change for the better.
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    Last edited by Camiie; 02-05-2012 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    BST is a job who's sole accepted purpose is to be a soloer. They probably SHOULD be better at it than any other job since they sadly have nothing else to offer.
    and THF is a job who's sole purpose as STATED BY THE GAME DEVS is to make treasure appear. They probaby SHOULD be better at it than any other job since sadly they have nothing else to offer.

    yet a bst walks out with a lot more currency than a solo thf. go figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    If you want something good for THF then ask for something good for THF.
    We did, and guess what we were told?
    Q: Add Subtle Blow to thief.
    A: Due to the fact that normal attacks now increase the effects of Treasure Hunter, we chose to forgo the addition of Subtle Blow as a trade off.

    Cant give native Subtle Blow becuse of Treasure Hunter.
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    Last edited by Nynja; 02-05-2012 at 09:54 AM.

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    Make all mobs in dynamis proc JA/WS/MA all the time rather than how it is now and people
    wouldn't need to keep changing camps three times per gameday and could stick to one
    mob - could set a seacom with a set camp and everyone could play nice.

    Too simple of a solution so I'm sure it cant be done due to the PS2 limitation or some other
    standard excuse.
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    Once again this has nothing to do with dynamis, 0. Any BST worth anything will be right back in there update day with a power pet instead of TH and killing faster to compensate lack of TH. Rejoice if you want, I assure you your competition is going nowhere. (and thanks to this will be around even longer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Pull the TH3 that's fine but why /thf > BST? Outperformed by a subjob, this must be what its like to be RDM. Or perhaps its a theme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinato View Post
    Pull the TH3 that's fine but why /thf > BST? Outperformed by a subjob, this must be what its like to be RDM. Or perhaps its a theme?
    whats stopping you from going bst/thf?
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