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  1. #141
    Player Darkpearl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    They just announced that each merit in feint will increase chance of treasure hunter upgrade by 25%. So thief probably starts at 8 after all.
    mhh didn't read that but was counting trait + equip, said th8 but was th7 total. Mistake count.
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  2. #142
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    The difference between TH6 and 7 is so small that even the tiniest bit of kill speed easily overpowers that trashbag knife. It hurts my heart that you spent all that time on those daggers and intentionally gimp yourself ;_;
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  3. #143
    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpearl View Post
    Yes, DPS is less obvious... however start be insignificant when you are in 4 ppl, can sacrifice 100 dmg for a hope of better drop. Even if I think same as you that doesn't change a thing. And yes mistake count is 7.
    Well, I more firmly believe you're sacrificing your potential for little to no gain at all, But i can see you're set in your belief. and there are some extenuating circumstances where Thief's knife in Dynamis would be acceptable.

    So i will not bug you any further on it !
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  4. #144
    Player Darkpearl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Well, I more firmly believe you're sacrificing your potential for little to no gain at all, But i can see you're set in your belief. and there are some extenuating circumstances where Thief's knife in Dynamis would be acceptable.

    So i will not bug you any further on it !
    Actually I rarely use TH dagger :x. I'm not a BST main or BST only player, I play with every jobs, however I must admit that jobs like BST doesn't shine in any other place and BST is fun like play PUP, so downgrade TH from it NOW that is 2012 make only PPL be more pissed. As I said, it should have been done before. Not now. I hope SE will backtrack from this decision, but if not, well... Im gonna use again THF then.

    [sarcasm]EDIT: This is for SE from me. You need it!

    [/sarcasm]
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    Last edited by Darkpearl; 02-03-2012 at 11:34 PM.
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  5. #145
    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpearl View Post
    Actually I rarely use TH dagger :x. I'm not a BST main or BST only player, I play with every jobs, however I must admit that jobs like BST doesn't shine in any other place and BST is fun like play PUP, so downgrade TH from it NOW that is 2012 make only PPL be more pissed. As I said, it should have been done before. Not now. I hope SE will backtrack from this decision, but if not, well... Im gonna use again THF then.
    Maybe Instead of Nerfing BST, they should give THF's an upgrade to TH Beyond Drop rates.

    As i suggested on the previous Page, How about a JA That inflicts the enemy with Negative effects based on the current TH level. Maybe something like..

    Level 15 - Lustful Gaze (implying the absolute want of something, like treasure...)

    TH1~3 - Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 5%
    TH4~6 Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 10%
    TH7~9 Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 15%
    TH10~12+ Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 20%

    So the higher TH, The more benefit it has. Have it be a Enemy-Target like Bully, Duration 3minutes, Recast 5 minutes. (Or 1min Dur 2min recast)

    Something like that. It gives THFs an advantage to their high level of Treasure Hunter that benefits the whole party.

    Alternatively, It could just be a buff to the THF, Higher TH = More Damage from SA or TA... like

    JT - Level 15 "??" - Increases the Damage of Trick Attack and Sneak Attack based on Current Level of TH. (Formula, TH level x2 = % increase).

    It gives Thieves bonus and reasons to upgrade TH above and beyond drop rates. It will fix that "BALANCE" Issue, as well as allow BST to keep their TH.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 02-03-2012 at 11:33 PM.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Maybe Instead of Nerfing BST, they should give THF's an upgrade to TH Beyond Drop rates.

    As i suggested on the previous Page, How about a JA That inflicts the enemy with Negative effects based on the current TH level. Maybe something like..

    Level 15 - Lustful Gaze (implying the absolute want of something, like treasure...)

    TH1~3 - Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 5%
    TH4~6 Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 10%
    TH7~9 Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 15%
    TH10~12+ Reduces Enemies Defense, and Magic Defense by 20%

    So the higher TH, The more benefit it has. Have it be a Enemy-Target like Bully, Duration 3minutes, Recast 5 minutes. (Or 1min Dur 2min recast)

    Something like that. It gives THFs an advantage to their high level of Treasure Hunter that benefits the whole party.

    Alternatively, It could just be a buff to the THF, Higher TH = More Damage from SA or TA... like

    JT - Level 15 "??" - Increases the Damage of Trick Attack and Sneak Attack based on Current Level of TH. (Formula, TH level x2 = % increase).

    It gives Thieves bonus and reasons to upgrade TH above and beyond drop rates. It will fix that "BALANCE" Issue, as well as allow BST to keep their TH.
    They couldn't do that, that would require thinking and work to implement.
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  7. #147
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    Jesus you people. The nerf isn't that bad. If anything it doesn't mean squat and anyone who even thinks this will stop BSTs from soloing in Dynamis has their heads up their asses.

    I solo on BST all the time and yeah I hate the McGimpy Pink/Pearl BSTs as much as anyone else but it won't stop them from still farming. The Pets will still have a native TH1 so seriously it's not going to effect it much or stop BSTs from farming the zones.
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  8. #148
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    They came for the Warriors but I wasn't a Warrior so I didn't care. Then they came for the Monks, but I wasn't a Monk so I didn't care. Then they came for the Beastmasters, but I'm not a Beastmaster so I didn't care. Then they came for me but there was no one left to care...

    Has there been a single positive thing added this year? I guess the DRG buffs and the lolcircle buffs. Starting to feel more like year of the nerf than year of the dragon. I don't play bst so this doesn't affect me but I still think nerfing everything is meh.
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    Player HimuraKenshyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kysaiana View Post
    They came for the Warriors but I wasn't a Warrior so I didn't care. Then they came for the Monks, but I wasn't a Monk so I didn't care. Then they came for the Beastmasters, but I'm not a Beastmaster so I didn't care. Then they came for me but there was no one left to care...

    Has there been a single positive thing added this year? I guess the DRG buffs and the lolcircle buffs. Starting to feel more like year of the nerf than year of the dragon. I don't play bst so this doesn't affect me but I still think nerfing everything is meh.
    I really am thinking now they are deliberately trying to kill this game off.....
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  10. #150
    Player Darkpearl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HimuraKenshyn View Post
    I really am thinking now they are deliberately trying to kill this game off.....
    Well.. FFXIV need more PPL so is obvious they try to force ppl rage/quit XDDDDDD
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