99 Empyrean Trials.

[Ravenmore]

The very same thing that happen with mystic will soon happen to Emp. Hell there were few doing salvage at 75 and by few not the whole server that SE was banking on when they said mystics would be easier then relics. Then Alex was going for 3 to 4k now you are lucky to see it for 12 to 15k with most of that being people that have given up on them and are clearing out thier stock pile.

[Camiie]

So because it started easy it should stay easy? Your logic is amazing. Maybe SE realized the pink-Kannagi ratio was over 50% and decided to make something actually hard.

The difficulty should be progressive. Each trial should be a bit harder or a bit more time consuming than the last. Good design simply doesn't go from 75 100% drop items with a high chance bonus item to 1500 extra rare items.

My idea would be like this:

95 Empyrean trial: 100 HMPs with a 50% chance one will appear in VW chest with proper light conditions. That would still be more items required at a reduced drop rate from the previous trial.

99 Empyrean trial: 125 dross/cinder with a 50% chance one will appear in VW chest with proper light conditions . More items with the same drop rate as the previous trial.

[Geabrielle]

95 Empyrean trial: 100 HMPs with a 50% chance one will appear in VW chest with proper light conditions. That would still be more items required at a reduced drop rate from the previous trial.

99 Empyrean trial: 125 dross/cinder with a 50% chance one will appear in VW chest with proper light conditions . More items with the same drop rate as the previous trial.

Even though I cringed horribly at the 125 dross/cinder ... if this was the sort of balance implementation the Dev Bros go for I would be alright with it, if only because it follows the progression rate AND the proper difficulty rate for an ultimate level weapon.

[Insaniac]

I assume you think there is something wrong with being tolerant and mature.

No I assume that you are arguing with me about things that I'm not even talking about lol.

[Nala]

DSL point is this content either has no effect on you or you do have a 90+ character and are too scared to take ownership of your opinion.

that said just because others did a trial at insane numbers doesn't mean they need to be punished, they could make it so a week before the modification peeps can trade thier weapon to the magian moogles for a refund of the difference between the trials. of course this would flood the market but honestly that'd be a good thing, and yeah those who still purchased 1500 HMP or 30k alex would still suffer a loss overall but the point is with empyrean weapons was they never should have been 1500, no one argued that number like we did with the 99 trials because no one thought they would release the trial as is.

[Cream_Soda]

I agree with the OP.

In terms off base weapon to 95 version, emp is more work if you buy nothing than relic. (Doing all trials, doing VW for all metal plates).

If you buy, (buy all coins and all plates) emp is still more work (trials vs trials) AND more money (90 to 95 emp vs money spent on base relic)

[newmonkey]

Why are we even comparing 95 the weapons are soon going to be 99 and its more work to get relics to 99 and more expensive.

95 trial sucks sure but lets not try to pretend empys are hard, we all know they are easy to get to 90 and let's face it the 90 versions are absolutley brilliant for the few days they take to make. Relics are easy now and i hate se for gimping it so anyone can goto dyna and solo the 75 verion in three months but to get both to 99 its costing more for relics.

By all means add more hmp to the game in the next update let it rain them for all i care.

[Erics]

Why are we even comparing 95 the weapons are soon going to be 99 and its more work to get relics to 99 and more expensive.

95 trial sucks sure but lets not try to pretend empys are hard, we all know they are easy to get to 90 and let's face it the 90 versions are absolutley brilliant for the few days they take to make. Relics are easy now and i hate se for gimping it so anyone can goto dyna and solo the 75 verion in three months but to get both to 99 its costing more for relics.

By all means add more hmp to the game in the next update let it rain them for all i care.

I would love to see you make a 90 empyrean from the START(that means the weapon out of the chest) in a few days...

Edit: We are comparing 95's because you can not have 99's without 95.

[newmonkey]

I would love to see you make a 90 empyrean from the START(that means the weapon out of the chest) in a few days...

Edit: We are comparing 95's because you can not have 99's without 95.

From start to 90 my Ukon took 8 or 9 days and absolutley crippled my friends Bravura.

I've already said they should add more ways for hmp to drop but reducing the number from 1500 isnt the way. Funny thing is soon as the 99 weapons go live Atories has already finished his 99 ukon.

[Sparthos]

From start to 90 my Ukon took 8 or 9 days and absolutley crippled my friends Bravura.

I've already said they should add more ways for hmp to drop but reducing the number from 1500 isnt the way. Funny thing is soon as the 99 weapons go live Atories has already finished his 99 ukon.

Because Atoreis represents the average player within the base.

I beat CoP before the nerfs, does that make me special? No, because the average player could barely get through missions and thus the content had to be eased down.

The Emp trials are designed in such a manner that you're supposed to just throw money at it, nevermind actually doing the content to get drops. HMPs? lol, you can do 20 Uptalas and get maybe.. 1 pouch loaded with a random number of plates. Got 2 in a pouch? Too bad, suck less.

It's not even like plates drop at a fair enough rate that buying would merely only speed up your finish. If you don't buy plates, you're not finishing the trial period. Cinder and Dross are pretty much in the same boat where the rate is so ass the only way you're making progress is to buy from people from 400k-2M/pc.

Further I could go into WoE weapons which are supposed to be "easier" to obtain yet the items for those trials are also completely fucktarded. Dice prices are all over the place, Liminal Residue would put finishing a 99 @25-30M after investing a previous 20-40M on the Dice trial.

tl;dr: SE get your head out of your ass.