Arch Dynamis lords difficultly.

[Celeana]

Wow Pimpchan...

You really love to put down others while looking like a complete dumbass at the same time. I'm glad not every french players are like you.

Inb4 ban ^^

[Demon6324236]

last I checked embrava doesn't give 300 tp at once

No, not 300%TP at once, it gives you more TP more quickly, meaning you can WS again faster and continue SCing after the last one finishes. Unless I missed it at some point where he said "Embrava gives you 300TP" then by all means, yes, your correct. From what I understand hes saying you can continue SCing with 4 MNKs when your getting an extra 7TP a tick, that seems fairly reasonable seeing as the TP gain your talking about with the time it takes for the other 3 MNKs to WS. I'm sure in the time it takes the 3 MNKs to WS the 4th MNK will have attacked enough (especially with regain) to WS again, continuing with the next MNK, and so on, so that your constantly able to SC.

you could keep doing SCs the whole darned fight.

Yeah, looks like what I said, MNK1 gets the TP to SC with MNK2 by the time MNK3 & MNK4 have finished theirs, sounds right to me!

you are wrong (as always)

He showed a clear example of you being wrong, so as for him being wrong always, no, you need to check your opponents previous posts before you even attempt to argue back. In this case you simply make yourself look like a fool who doesn't even pay attention to what is said, you read half a post, think you know what is said, and rant off how your omnipotent and must be correct while everyone else is wrong every time they disagree with you.

No my group has the perfect setup.

Wow, perfect? No room at all for improvement? Last I checked perfect meant the absolute best, so you have afterglows? Because this would be best, obviously not "perfect"... everything can be improved, you simply refuse to think anyone could possibly do this better than you...



The sad thing is that while you do this and people argue with you in return, they probably do it just to laugh at your ignorance, a nice bit of humor for them to start the day watching someone try to say something obviously wrong, is correct.

People keep telling you, be smarter about how you talk to people, and you would get respect, but you don't listen to them, and till then people will do this with you every time, because you make them, and because you refuse to see the truth. When someone says something is wrong, prove them its right. Prove, means have proof, if you cannot do this, do not try to change their mind, they have no reason to change their position on the matter, you have given them no reason to.

And please, don't try to say...

because this is FFXI, you don't have to prove it.

because that just means I can say... I can solo ADL on RDM... and ya know what, its true, because this is FFXI, I don't have to prove it! But no, you do have to prove it, because its how the world works, if we just took everyones word for it then we would have chaos, so we want proof, what makes you right, and Yinnyth wrong? When you can answer this, WITH PROOF, you might be able to be correct, till then, you will be wrong because of your lack of evidence to support your words.



Yes, I know thats a wall, oh well, alot needs to be said about this pointless talk/argument...

[MarkovChain]

My god a wall of text to say nothing. For your info he is wrong because you and him can't read. The only time you skillchain is when you WS obvisouly which is at start (30% off right away), then slightly above 50%, then under 20%. The problem is you and teambutthurt don't read what I say, and that you don't fight adl. It's not a zerg fight because you don't go all out, aka
you don't spam ws constantly at any point of the fight (unless you are on a gimp DD like drk I guess ?). Even is that was the case, embrava would not affect the ability to constantly skillchain, because you already do it w/o due to capped delay.... You two are good at trolling and bad at thinking. Come back when you have 99 marrows ¿

[Demon6324236]

I wouldn't waste my time getting 99 marrows, rather fuel a few relics in my ls or something useful than to make an afterglow which I honestly see as pointless for the stupidly high cost, it seems more for show than for reason, but thats neither here nor there.

I was pointing out why his statement was correct, it would allow for more TP when SCing, if you don't do it the whole fight then so be it, my point still stands that he is correct in the fact it helps TP build. And the rest of what I said still stands as well, you say one thing is pointless in my entire wall and yet, you think the entire thing is pointless, which is pointless in and of itself.

Lets go to part 2, he is always wrong. Weird, he was right and proved it, so that part of my wall was wrong? Or for nothing? I'm trying to prove to you a point, you say your right, give proof, when you do it you can be right and people will not fight with you, when your ignorant to the fact people want proof before they will agree with you, then you subject yourself to wasting time on this form of pointless arguing. If your truly so great, then I would think you have better things to do then be foolish and argue with other members of the community as you do. Simply give people proof and move on, then you and everyone else get more done rather than run over the same subject over and over again as you do.

Your typical post seems to be this...

Blah blah blah, I'm right, your wrong, because apparently even if you do fight ADL, you don't actually fight ADL, you make things up as if you fight ADL, but clearly do not because what I say is obviously right, and you disagree. Also I must be correct, blah has a set timer, blah will happen at a certain point in the fight, blah blah blah I'm still right, you don't have what I have done, so I must be correct!

Sorry if this offends you, but seriously, look at the tags for this thread, people have no respect for you because this is how you act, and so they will never stop fighting with you, either let it go or be nicer. If your right, they have bad info, their loss. Be nicer, give proof, and act civil, then you might get somewhere with this, and people will listen. You seem to care people have accurate info, that or you just want to argue for no reason, if you want people to have this info then prove it before you state it as fact, for without proof it isn't shown as fact and people will dispute it if they see otherwise! If your doing it just to argue, then yes, your a troll, and go away because your a pest. I don't know, and honestly don't care, because in simple words, you annoy me, and you need to change to being worth having around. Because as it stands, you seem worthless to the community other than a passing joke.

Dont bother replying if your only going to respond to 1 part of a post btw, just makes you look even more like your ignoring most of it. Which makes it pointless to talk to you because you only will ignore the parts you dont like and reply to the parts you think you can argue with.

[Yinnyth]

last I checked embrava doesn't give 300 tp at once so you are wrong (as always)

Neither does primeval brew, but it gives enough regain for one person to constantly self-SC.

WS from MNK1 >> wait 5 seconds >> WS from MNK2 >> light SC + wait 5 seconds >> WS from MNK3 >> wait 5 seconds >> WS from MNK4 >> light SC + wait 5 seconds >> WS from MNK1 >> repeat. This gives 20 seconds between one person's first and second WSs. With maxed haste and embrava, the average DD should get 100TP in just under 10 seconds. That is plenty of time to keep the SCs going.

Dont bother replying if your only going to respond to 1 part of a post btw

Unfortunately, I tend to do the same thing. If I tried to reply to every last detail in a post, I'd wind up creating a wall of text even larger than the original post and almost no one would read it. Personally, I read the whole post and try my best to understand what the poster was really trying to say before responding. Pchan, however...

Well, this is him responding to a post I made in which I actually linked a video of my test for anyone to scrutinize. He even quoted my entire post in the response, including the link to my video, and the breakdown of my test results:

In summary, you are a troll claiming shit without testing ? got it. Good luck in your battle to prove pchan is wrong on something he never claimed nor cares at all (multiple targets or w/e you did). I claimed SS has a set duration and it does up to partial resist values. No maybe one day you'll do more than 10 attempts lol.

Yes, that's right. He quoted my test results, then opened his post by saying I claim [explitive] without testing. And this is why I find him so entertaining. He actually accuses me of not reading and/or understanding what he is trying to say:

For your info he is wrong because you and him can't read.

[Demon6324236]

Oh I know, I have been reading this for about 20 pages or so I think, thats why I try to help him understand whats wrong with what hes doing, but its like there is this magic bubble around him that shields out fact, and keeps his ideas as the truth. As for the responding.

I don't mean to say I want you to make a wall like I do btw, I know its 1 reason why I tend not to post on forums often, I rather just watch and see what people say for the sake of info. But like you said, he ignores the point of things, and then tries to call you out on something that most the time isn't even the case, and was a minor part of what you said anyways. My post wasn't to say his plan needs Embrava, I was saying for what you were talking about, you were correct, but he runs off somewhere saying were wrong, because he doesn't WS spam on ADL, which had nothing to do with the fact that Embrava, and furthermore, regain, help TP... My main point of my entire post even is the fact of how he acts which promotes these arguments, and yet, continues!

[MarkovChain]

I was pointing out why his statement was correct, it would allow for more TP when SCing, if you don't do it the whole fight then so be it, my point still stands that he is correct in the fact it helps TP build.

No? crit% only work by tiers of 100/200/300.

I didn't contest that it makes build tp faster but that it makes you do more ws (estimation : 3 sec for the whole fight) at the cost of :

---- 2x minuets
---- one less stun to kill the second copy.

facepalm ?

people have no respect for you because this is how you act, and so they will never stop fighting with you

Thanks for explaining us you are a troll then ?

[Yinnyth]

I didn't contest that it makes build tp faster but that it makes you do more ws (estimation : 3 sec for the whole fight) at the cost of :

---- 2x minuets
---- one less stun to kill the second copy.

facepalm ?

I'm going to assume you mean you lose EITHER 2x minuets OR stun to bring embrava along with your group, not that you lose both. Find one post. One post anywhere in these 40 pages of posts where someone tells you your group needs embrava, and that it's better than your daurdabla bard. You have on several ocassions called embrava worthless, which we contest. We're not saying YOU need embrava, and YOU should have one of your people change jobs. We're saying WE make very good use of embrava, and that it is in fact a large part of the reason we're even capable of winning.

Everytime you say something like:

Regain is 100% useless on the fight.

Someone's gonna pop out of the woodworks and be like "NUH UH!" My group doesn't have a good way to work a bard into our setup when we kill ADL, but that doesn't mean I should go onto forums and claim that march is 100% useless.

[Demon6324236]

I'm a troll for explaining to you that the way you word things is why you are fought with? No... I'm doing just what I said, telling you why people fight with you, this would have stopped a good 5-10 pages ago if you were reasonable in listening to others. The entire argument about SS would have been a page or 2, not 10, talk of Embrava's regain being 100% useless would have ended fast because in fact, what could have been said is "Embrava is not more effective in how I choose to fight ADL. However in your strat I suppose it maybe more effective, but I do not know because I do not fight it the same way as you." Do you know what you do instead? Let me show you a few examples...

In order to kill ADL you limit your damage, even as 6, that's why you don't WS spam therefore regain is useless and your SCH is just N+1. I do 3 WS per fight, and only 3, getting those TP earlier will not help me

Doesn't help you, does not mean doesn't help anyone fighting ADL, what if I disagree? My strat uses Embrava and needs it or it at least helps out.

Dude you'd need both COR and SCH to match BRD, suck less ; the less people the better. Regain is 100% useless on the fight.

Well in my strat it isn't useless, not sure why you can't see that. (Next quote doesn't exactly match up the same way, but just focus on this little bold part...)

No my group has the perfect setup. No group of 6 or 7 can kill the second clone reliably without a second stun, also rezeak clearly doesn't kill ADL if he thinks regain is useful.

Not only do you think you have the perfect setup, but apparently anyone who thinks regain is useful, doesn't kill ADL. I think what you should have said is "Not in my group. My group of 6 or 7 can kill the second clone reliably with a second stun, also rezeak clearly doesn't use the same strat as I do to kill ADL if regain is useful to him." This, would have stopped alot of fighting, right there, in the change of 1 post I'm sure, because rather than saying your best, your perfect, and regain is useless in what is assumed to be all fights against ADL. You say your strat is rather good, but it doesn't need the use of regain because of how you fight it. Tada alot of fighting prevented by the "troll" making a change to your post...

[MarkovChain]

I'm going to assume you mean you lose EITHER 2x minuets OR stun to bring embrava along with your group, not that you lose both.

You lose both thanks for proving you don't read.

SCH option : wasted character for the fight, uselesss 100%, doesn't bring minuet, doesn't bring the second stun, only offers a few ticks of TP aka allows to TP a a few seconds earlier, therefore doesn't make the kill safer, and more importantly doesn't allow multiple clone kills (with 6 at least, otherwise it's irrelevant)
BRD option : 2xminuet, the BRd can log on a SMN for a second stun as well as an additionnal pop (+1 pop at least per run, before counting COR resets).

The difference is clear. My option adds probably ~2 pops per run, and the possibility to kill the second clone most of the time. I told you I'm better than you.