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  1. #361
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    I do it as sch, don't see why BRD couldnt do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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  2. #362
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    Edit: Your "6 man group" still uses a 2hr ability for every kill you do. Killing 6 in one run would require either a 2hr restore or spare SMNs. Either way, it's more than 6 characters. We've done a kill with 5 people, but 2 of us were dualboxing. Do I get to call that a 5-man kill?
    I see you are still butthurt about the video, but it's actually a 6-man kill unlike what you try to imply. If you want to impress us go 5-man it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I see you are still butthurt about the video, but it's actually a 6-man kill unlike what you try to imply. If you want to impress us go 5-man it.
    No no, each individual kill you do really is 6-man (at least if we assume all of your kills look like the ones in your videos). But here's the deal: you said you 6-man 6 kills in one run. You actually require 11 characters to do that. You worded something deceptively in order to boost your ego.

    I don't care what you call our kills. I'm just pointing out that you wouldn't let ME get away with a claim like the one you made. So why should I let YOU get away with it?

    Dualboxed characters count if you use them, if they helped you get to that point, if they buffed you, etc. You use at least 5 spare characters, and without them, you wouldn't be able to kill more than 1 per run. Therefore you do not 6-man 6 kills in 1 run. You 11-man 6 kills in 1 run. You 6-man each individual kill. (I assume).
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  4. #364
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yinnyth View Post
    So why should I let YOU get away with it?
    I had no hopes. By definition trolls defend their bone until the other side gives up posting ?
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  5. #365
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I had no hopes. By definition trolls defend their bone until the other side gives up posting ?
    Trolls ignore logic and use phrases like

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Cool story bro
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    I see you are still butthurt
    Will I call you a troll for that? No. Trolls are stupid on purpose just to get other people to rage. There is no "on purpose" about the things you say, and you're not attempting to get people to rage.

    But you are wrong about many things, and you say them with such certainty. I can't resist correcting you when you make mistakes like saying "ADL splits after 30 seconds no matter what" or "ramuh's shock squall has a set duration" or "everything I've said about ADL is true". With a few tweaks to the way you see things, I honestly think you could be a respected member of the ffxi community, but you need to accept that sometimes you're wrong and learn the difference between proof and intuition.
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  6. #366
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I do it as sch, don't see why BRD couldnt do it.
    the ??? vanish while you figth ADL. the fight lasts at least 1m30 + 1 min wait for the ??? to repop. Soulvoice is 3mn. not 10+. Of cours the magian spec should work here, but not the ???.
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    Last edited by Monchat; 05-15-2012 at 06:34 AM.

  7. #367
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    I think you can stay locked even when you pop it because after I pause my buffs and ADL pops I have to hit escape to engage. In the case of BRD, and by extension SCH (lol regain, but hey the idea comes from BG it must be good ; oh and I forgot : 2 minuet > nothing), I'm not sure if that would be useful. It means the brd is useless for the fight, while he could log on his SMN mule for a free stun.
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  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    the ??? vanish while you figth ADL. the fight lasts at least 1m30 + 1 min wait for the ??? to repop. Soulvoice is 3mn. not 10+. Of cours the magian spec should work here, but not the ???.
    You stay locked even after the ??? disappears. Soul voice duration is the same as Tabula Rasa, so a bard should be able to multiple pops, just like I do as SCH.


    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    I think you can stay locked even when you pop it because after I pause my buffs and ADL pops I have to hit escape to engage. In the case of BRD, and by extension SCH (lol regain, but hey the idea comes from BG it must be good ; oh and I forgot : 2 minuet > nothing), I'm not sure if that would be useful. It means the brd is useless for the fight, while he could log on his SMN mule for a free stun.
    Sure you could log in his SMN mule, or you could have soul voice in every fight. Up to you I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  9. #369
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    Ok say you have a COR(which you do to reset 2hrs) to do ADL then you can easily lock chaos roll on DDs w/ Red curry and berserk i'm pretty attack will be capped meaning minuet does very little/nothing

    So really BRD vs SCH is

    Capped haste vs Capped haste + 7 Regain + 141 Regen

    If you don't have a COR (far enough your going in for 1 run) the 95/99 Emperyan BRD prolly is better.
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Why are people still fighting with lolpchan? He's just an arrogant noob who hides behind this forums "protection". No point debating further with the thick headedness of Quetz ppl.
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