Arch Dynamis lords difficultly.

[Yinnyth]

So after the entire mass of idiots, including you, were jumping at my throat for claiming I could 6-man ADL, wich I proved with 3 videos, you still split nonsense trying to belittle me ?

I'm sorry, I don't seem to remember that. Could you please find the quote of me saying that you can't 6-man ADL? The thing I took exception to was your ridiculous claim:

the fight which implies that a minimum of 6 real DDs (aka level 90+ empy monks with soulvoice ma/ma/min&haste) should bring ADL to ~zero% before it splits leaving you with pale copies of maybe 1% HP.

I never said that it's impossible for 6 people to kill ADL. That's about the only believable thing you've said on this entire thread. I'm attacking you for almost EVERYTHING else you've said on this thread.

Shock squall has a fixed duration, tiered to full/half/quarter etc

So it's possible then... and bear with me on this one here... it's possible that he HALF RESISTED THE STUN, so STUN WORE OFF BEFORE YOU EXPECTED IT TO? That might explain the whole... you know... splitting within 20 seconds of using shock squall in a way which doesn't require him to behave unlike any other enemy in the game which are incapable of beginning a summoning animation until the effect of stun, terror, sleep, or petrify wears off.

I already said it's possible you're right. But common sense is against you on this which means that if you want to claim this as absolute truth, you need to bring proof to the table. You can start by bringing proof that shock squall is a set duration of stun. I don't play smn myself, so this wouldn't be something I would notice. I also don't see this information listed on any of my trusted sources.

[Yinnyth]

Friend let me borrow their smn mule account to test this claim of yours, so I went out and picked on some colibri with timestamps. Counting from the time Ramuh readies shock squall to the "/echo ." I do as soon as the bird starts moving again, here's some samples:

Readies [15:59:04], stun off [15:59:18]..... 14 seconds
Readies [16:04:23], stun off [16:04:33]..... 10 seconds
Readies [16:09:10], stun off [16:09:34]..... 24 seconds

Readies time and landing time aren't the same thing I realize, but it's just as inaccurate as using the landing time from the chatlog since the landing time waits for the animation to finish. Regarless, from these samples you can see that shock squall is a non-standard debuff with a non-standard duration which varies widely from use to use, not the standard half/quarter/eigth/sixteenth system that most debuffs use. You know what other debuff follows this chaotic pattern? Stun does. Imagine that.

Please, go ahead and do your own testing though. And next time you make such claims as:

Shock squall has a fixed duration

Actually test BEFORE you claim. Also:

Everyhting we claim about ADL is correct

No, it really isn't. You just think it is. Up until you change your mind, then you forget and disown your original claims.

[MarkovChain]

Friend let me borrow their smn mule account to test this claim of yours, so I went out and picked on some colibri with timestamps. Counting from the time Ramuh readies shock squall to the "/echo ." I do as soon as the bird starts moving again, here's some samples:

Readies [15:59:04], stun off [15:59:18]..... 14 seconds
Readies [16:04:23], stun off [16:04:33]..... 10 seconds
Readies [16:09:10], stun off [16:09:34]..... 24 seconds

Readies time and landing time aren't the same thing I realize, but it's just as inaccurate as using the landing time from the chatlog since the landing time waits for the animation to finish. Regarless, from these samples you can see that shock squall is a non-standard debuff with a non-standard duration which varies widely from use to use, not the standard half/quarter/eigth/sixteenth system that most debuffs use. You know what other debuff follows this chaotic pattern? Stun does. Imagine that.

Please, go ahead and do your own testing though. And next time you make such claims as:

Actually test BEFORE you claim. Also:

No, it really isn't. You just think it is. Up until you change your mind, then you forget and disown your original claims.

You are wrong, shock squall has fixed partial duration, it's easily tested and depend on skill level. Go away already lol. And please stop spreading nonsense like some spells can 1/16 resist.

[Yinnyth]

You are wrong, shock squall has fixed partial duration, it's easily tested and depend on skill level. Go away already lol.

Prove. It.

I already easily tested it, and my test results are 100% contrary to your claim. I wanted to say they were contrary to your test results but YOU HAVEN'T TESTED, YOU JUST ASSUME. So I said "claim" instead.

Do you know what the biggest difference is between you and me? When I heard you say that shock squall has a set duration, I thought you were full of crap because stun sure as hell doesn't have a set duration. But I made certain to state my disbelief in a way which still revealed that I realized I could be wrong. Then I actually tested it to find out the truth.

When's the last time you've doubted yourself? The only way a person can stop learning is if they assume they already know.

I invite you to prove me wrong. Do. It. Show me that shock squall has a set duration.

[MarkovChain]

you two are mad especially the OP that didn't point his nose since I posted the video and kept leeching nynja's ass until that ; haha.

[Yinnyth]

you too are mad especially the OP that didn't point is nose since I posted the video and kept leeching nynja's ass until that ; haha.

Who cares about Nynja? I'm the one disputing your claims now. You don't get to go "AHAHA! I made a fool out of person A, therefore I have made fools out of persons B through J!"

Nynja and I are not the same person. Nynja stopped posting on this thread months ago. I'm not even going to defend his points of view, so sure, say whatever you want about him. Also, you've still got a lot of ridiculous claims to defend. I'm pretty much in the clear if the only thing I have to prove is that I'm not mad about your videos.

Hell, I'm GLAD you posted those videos because I get to use them as proof against you that ADL does not split exactly 30 seconds after popping everytime, EVEN JUST FOR YOUR GROUP.

[Rezeak]

you two are mad especially the OP that didn't point his nose since I posted the video and kept leeching nynja's ass until that ; haha.

yea it's me making a million posts cause everyone disagrees with me.

Honestly pchan i'm glad you post on this forum pretty funny to see you work so hard to prove one or two things for noone to care cause your wrong so often noone believes you (also love how pdif 101 has 0 likes seems like there like a ton of interest in that ton of work you've done too)

/em look forward to you trying to prove the next thing noone cares about

[MarkovChain]

also love how pdif 101 has 0 likes seems like there like a ton of interest in that ton of work you've done too

/em look forward to you trying to prove the next thing noone cares about

I don't post to get "likes" which imo only Kids would care about. That thread is me completely solving pdif equations none of which were known until me. Not surprising considering the idiots that post on BG.

[MarkovChain]

I don't have to prove you wrong Mr "I can't do a proper test", as I have already tested it in the past. For obvious reasons your "3" sample size is worth nothing and is BG-worthy. Your method for measuring duration is laughable, since it's basically eyeballing, doesn't mention level of skill either . Do 10-20 shock squall and you will realize that for instance maximum duration all have about the same duration, but hey like all trolls you are better at posting for the sake of arguing than spending 30 minutes doing something clever.

[Yinnyth]

I don't have to prove you wrong Mr "I can't do a proper test", as I have already tested it in the past. For obvious reasons your "3" sample size is worth nothing and is BG-worthy. Your method for measuring duration is laughable, since it's basically eyeballing, doesn't mention level of skill either . Do 10-20 shock squall and you will realize that for instance maximum duration all have about the same duration, but hey like all trolls you are better at posting for the sake of arguing than spending 30 minutes doing something clever.

I did over 30 samples and showed you 3. Why? Because going through the chat log and manually writing down the timestamps is a pain, and 3 was plenty to get the point across.

How would you measure stun duration when you can't get the chat log to tell you when stun wears off? Do you have some method which is not laughable?