Arch Dynamis lords difficultly.

[MarkovChain]

I like that & that's how I'm going to do a daurdabla99.

[Vold]

I thought meteor damage was upwards of 60k for a well geared group?

I like that & that's how I'm going to do a daurdabla99.

Didn't Mdk attribute an entire post about how they ain't worth farming for under 50 million gils? Because you could take half a dozen BST mules into Dynamis daily to farm currency one after the other or whatever? It's kind of hard to follow you two sometimes because English is not your first language but that's the gist of what I could understand. So, are you now saying 20 million per is worth farming marrows? I'm beginning to sense Mdk's original rant post about the "low prices" was filled with a bunch of theory coulda beens and could dos and not reality.

[Natenn]

I thought meteor damage was upwards of 60k for a well geared group?

Didn't Mdk attribute an entire post about how they ain't worth farming for under 50 million gils? Because you could take half a dozen BST mules into Dynamis daily to farm currency one after the other or whatever? It's kind of hard to follow you two sometimes because English is not your first language but that's the gist of what I could understand. So, are you now saying 20 million per is worth farming marrows? I'm beginning to sense Mdk's original rant post about the "low prices" was filled with a bunch of theory coulda beens and could dos and not reality.

they are when ppl like him probably skim off the top. Probably why he doesn't want it nerfed, if its to easy he can't sell em anymore, and cant take advantage of LS.

[Mahoro]

Marrows have dropped to around 20-25 million on Lakshmi. We sold one for 30 million 2 weeks ago (our LS sells every 6th Marrow as a way to compensate LS members a bit), but I doubt we will get that price every time.

You can't use an ally of BSTs or whatever the "ideal" farming number is to determine Marrow cost because people aren't selling or paying for the ideal, and the ideal is realistically unattainable. Anywhere under 20 million I'd say is too cheap for the effort, but anywhere over 30-35 million becomes a benchmark where no market exists.

[Return1]

I'm not too familiar with with Meteor's Damage with 3 I admit, but I was told it could do 25-30k+ with 3BLM in good gear and with COR Buffs, which should be enough to kill both ADL clones after a good zerg group causes a split, which is how you can avoid the problem of picking a clone and hoping you get the right one.

Now then if we're dealing with 6, and if ADL really only has around 100k parsed out, then you only really need to get him to a bit under 40%, easily doable by a competent zerg pt, for 6 competent BLMs to kill him. And really? They might target the wrong one? This is why you have the /assist command. Nobody cares about the terror move, you could just be calm and wait since you'll have taken all the "rush" out of a post split ADL. Just keep your BLMs back and out of death conal. MAB roll, maybe a Diabolos MAB ward, and calmly finish ADL and his clones. Even if they survive meteor by a little bit, you could still ja spell that last little bit down. It's just nice to have a closer to take the "luck" factor out of the fight.

Also: If you're just bringing the BRD for SV Marches, wouldn't a SCH be a better choice for your group since Embrava is better and SCH can bring more to a group after the battle starts?

[MarkovChain]

I'm not too familiar with with Meteor's Damage with 3 I admit, but I was told it could do 25-30k+ with 3BLM in good gear and with COR Buffs, which should be enough to kill both ADL clones after a good zerg group causes a split, which is how you can avoid the problem of picking a clone and hoping you get the right one.

Now then if we're dealing with 6, and if ADL really only has around 100k parsed out, then you only really need to get him to a bit under 40%, easily doable by a competent zerg pt, for 6 competent BLMs to kill him. And really? They might target the wrong one? This is why you have the /assist command. Nobody cares about the terror move, you could just be calm and wait since you'll have taken all the "rush" out of a post split ADL. Just keep your BLMs back and out of death conal. MAB roll, maybe a Diabolos MAB ward, and calmly finish ADL and his clones. Even if they survive meteor by a little bit, you could still ja spell that last little bit down. It's just nice to have a closer to take the "luck" factor out of the fight.

Also: If you're just bringing the BRD for SV Marches, wouldn't a SCH be a better choice for your group since Embrava is better and SCH can bring more to a group after the battle starts?

<40% only happens when his AI lags on a spell or TP and you have to many melees on it. If you bring 6 BLM you remove 6 melees so you are not achieving this and likely have the same killing speed as the vid aka 40% on a good day, 50% usually.

Meteor doesn't kill anything unless it is 50-60K damage at least and by the time it is cast one copy is dead by the melee team. This doesn't remove any luck from the fight, you'd have to take down both copies at low enough HP and then do a sync nuke on either. In order to achieve this you will need 6 BLM and at least 4 melee, as well as 2 SMN, a BRD for melee buffs ... 13 people.

SCh doesn't bring anything once the battle starts, it's only better if you are going to farm which seems stupid because it means you brought 13+ people for a few pops only ?

[Monchat]

yea the main problem with meteor is it does not always split at 40%, it's at or before 50% unless it is in a spell/ws animation in which cas you can bring its low with many DDs. well with meteor burn this would not be a problem if it triple splits technically , but if it splits too early your melees will have to lower each copy's HP. If you take too much time you can end up with 4 copies up at a time lol. Not to mention that once it triples, it unlocks tera slash spam, and if one copy is brought below 25% it unlocks implosion (30second terror). Also the copy do not necessarilly pop with teh original mob's HP (but the first double split does).

[Zumi]

SE really needs to something about the ADL requirement for 99 weapons. Abyssea killed most large linkshells. Sure there are some that are capable of farming ADL and still do but they are in the minority. Most players only have maybe a group of 4-6 now that they play with mainly due to have the game became much more casual.

As seen there are very specialized low man set ups that can kill ADL with 6 people however this will not work for your random 6 people who want to upgrade their relics. Which makes taking an alliance is the best way to do it.

In FFXI people will not do this for free trying to put together a group for ADL will just not fly because most people see it as a waste of their time. Leading to like a 20m+ for each drop basically paying each person about 1m for their help.

[Monchat]

buying with gil is still an option for those w/o LS. Now you should do what the JPs do. It's impossible to do xarcabard during JP prime right now even on week days. They made one or 2 LSes designed only for ADL. 70+ people in zones during prime time. They enter with an allaince of 18 and their 18 SMN/COR mules, basically, and im not joking. The other day there were 15 LS-less, level 65 COR and 75 SMN waiting @ the entrance. They split in each ??? localtion and destroy anything in sight. although in the end I dont think they pop 18 in one session, but if one person gets to pop and ADL every 2-3 days with pretty much guarranted win (18 people), thats worth it.

[MarkovChain]

More info : ADL split is partly governed by the TP move "violent rupture" (knock back). For the first split it's obvious because it almost always split ofter this TP. Also the few times it triple split, wether on 2nd form or 3rd form, it was spamming rupture (2-3 in a sequel). So I think that's what makes it randomly triple split.