99 Weapons Rant (yeah yeah another)

[Nala]

Why must the 99 mythic and relic weapons be retardedly difficult to achieve?

Unlike Empy weapons which are relatively easy to make, in mythics case a player has perservered through probably one of the most daunting pre requisites to just arrive at 75, which considering your new line of thought for these trials its pretty much now just the starting line. Not only are you forcing the rare mythic player to do content that's outdated, but its relatively unrewarding by comparison to VW.

In a similar respect you have relics, by comparison the quest side of a relic weapon is less grueling however depending you're still talking about a massive time investment in either the capacity of farming your own currency or farming the gil to buy it. this is all once again just to make the 75 which as with the mythics is just the starting line of another whole series of quests one must do to achieve the end result: fight a seriously bogus NM, a NM that has nothing of value to any average or hardcore player, a NM that you're not garunteed victory, a NM that according to your vision will require 17 people like mythics to selflessly sacrifice their time for the greater good, or a greedy linkshell leader, something which you specifically stated you wanted to prevent hence your GROSSLY misconceived VW drop system.

That's not all, you made dynamis an open air zone, but this NM only has one ??? hell the pop set nms are the same, furthermore you're going to spend the majority of a run farming a single pop set, fight him once, maybe win, and the best part is the upgrade item may not even be 100% drop. considering this game has no true PvP aren't we meant to band together and team up? not fight over spawn points and rare drops.

I'm not going to say i agree with the 95 Empy trial quantity however its somewhat understandable, HMP are like the Alex/ancient currency stage for the mythics/relics, save for your able to complete a useful form of this weapon before having to be confronted with HMP stage. Thing is with your vision for the later trials for empyrean weapons, it's at least somewhat attainable, people are already running your poorly designed hamster wheel named VW for the 100th++ time for that x drop they wanted, Empy 99 items will actually be generated, there will be supply and demand for these items.

With that ive said most of what i wanted in reguards to the trials directly and move on to an aside: Square games have been a major part of my life and the greatest influence that caused me inevitably to become a gamer, however over the years i've seen some of my favorite series (mana/seiken densetsu) become shovel ware, with the way 14 was handled, and the way 11 is now being handled between the lack of reguard for your CUSTOMER'S concerns, the scavenging of our dev team without even reducing our monthly fees and your overbearing need to balance a game you've no clue about.

Edit: Oh and i didnt even address the afterglow trials, while im glad that you decided to downgrade from comic book super villain type evil to regular corporate corruption level of evil by spliting the trials, but why bother even having this effect in the game, considering you said the stage 2 will share the trial item for stage 1 but still require the super villain level of dedication, which according to the test server these afterglow effects arent even that potent, perhaps the real afterglows will rock your socks off and you wanted to keep this secret, remember the last time you kept secrets? The formula for beating AV the "right" way is still a giant mystery. My point is for the level of upgrade VS your pure unadulterated insanity you will never see a stage 2 99.

I think i'm done with your company, i may still play 11 until the final word comes out on these trials, should you still choose to ignore the very loud and obvious outcry from the entire community i will be done with this game, you have lost your grasp on reality and sanity, its been said many times before there are MMO's as old as this game that still recieve full expantions, there are many new MMO's that are better for the pure fact that they have full dev teams that are willing to cater to thier costumer. PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES, your not saving any face by sticking with your decisions, you're losing it.

[Babekeke]

Why are the best weapons in the game hard to get?

hhhhmmmmmm

[Damane]

this so many times this. Cant agree more with Nala.

[Insaniac]

Complete lack of understanding.

Why do people defend content that no one wants to do?

The gripe from most isn't that this takes effort. It's that it takes bullshit effort. Doing an ADL run is already dull enough to prevent 99.9% of players from ever even attempting it and you think it's a good idea to force people to kill it dozens of times? It's not too hard it's just not even slightly fun. It's frustrating and annoying and it's a shitty thing to force on people.

[Babekeke]

Why do people defend content that no one wants to do?

The gripe from most isn't that this takes effort. It's that it takes bullshit effort. Doing an ADL run is already dull enough to prevent 99.9% of players from ever even attempting it and you think it's a good idea to force people to kill it dozens of times? It's not too hard it's just not even slightly fun. It's frustrating and annoying and it's a shitty thing to force on people.

And you say I don't understand? I understand completely. If you want to get the best weapons in the game, you have to do stupid retarded stuff.

Look back to ffxi 9 for example. You happily play through the game and as you get to quite a high level, you think "I'll get a guide to see if there's a really good weapon that I can get that I've missed". In said guide, it says that you actually had to NOT open several treasure chests as you progressed through the game. 1 of which was even in the prologue before the main part of the game even started. If you want the uberweapon, you now have to completely restart the game to get it.

You have 2 choices. you can stick with your level 95 weapon, which is superior to all weapons apart from the level 99 versions; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to upgrade to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.
Personally I choose not to do them. You may all make your own choices.

The other thing is that people insist on ciomplaining about this content even though it hasn't even been implimented yet.

[Spiritreaver]

And you say I don't understand? I understand completely. If you want to get the best weapons in the game, you have to do stupid retarded stuff.

Look back to ffxi 9 for example. You happily play through the game and as you get to quite a high level, you think "I'll get a guide to see if there's a really good weapon that I can get that I've missed". In said guide, it says that you actually had to NOT open several treasure chests as you progressed through the game. 1 of which was even in the prologue before the main part of the game even started. If you want the uberweapon, you now have to completely restart the game to get it.

You have 2 choices. you can stick with your level 95 weapon, which is superior to all weapons apart from the level 99 versions; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to upgrade to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.
Personally I choose not to do them. You may all make your own choices.

The other thing is that people insist on ciomplaining about this content even though it hasn't even been implimented yet.

Wasn't that FFXII? The Zodiac w/e?

[cidbahamut]

And you say I don't understand? I understand completely. If you want to get the best weapons in the game, you have to do stupid retarded stuff.

Realy that's already been covered by just building the base 75 weapon in the case of relics and mythics, and heavy metal plates covered it for Emps. Everything from that point on should just be routine maintenance.

You have 2 choices. you can stick with your level 95 weapon, which is superior to all weapons apart from the level 99 versions; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to upgrade to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.
Personally I choose not to do them. You may all make your own choices.

That's not a choice, that's bad game design. No one's forcing them to keep playing a game with many poorly thought out design choices either. You let stuff like that slide often enough and the playerbase will just pack up and leave. It's not like FFXI is the only game on the market, and there are plenty of more promising options on the horizon.

[Lafaiel]

And you say I don't understand? I understand completely. If you want to get the best weapons in the game, you have to do stupid retarded stuff.

Look back to ffxi 9 for example. You happily play through the game and as you get to quite a high level, you think "I'll get a guide to see if there's a really good weapon that I can get that I've missed". In said guide, it says that you actually had to NOT open several treasure chests as you progressed through the game. 1 of which was even in the prologue before the main part of the game even started. If you want the uberweapon, you now have to completely restart the game to get it.

You have 2 choices. you can stick with your level 95 weapon, which is superior to all weapons apart from the level 99 versions; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to upgrade to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.
Personally I choose not to do them. You may all make your own choices.

The other thing is that people insist on ciomplaining about this content even though it hasn't even been implimented yet.

I don'r remember having to wait for 18 of my friends to log in to get that weapon in FF9 though, maybe its been so long I just don't remember right.... Back then I though I had a party ready to go at all times, guess they didn't have anything better to do.

[Nynja]

You have 2 choices. you can stick with your level 95 weapon, which is superior to all weapons apart from the level 99 versions; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to upgrade to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.
Personally I choose not to do them. You may all make your own choices.

Then why is SE adjusting the 95 cap fight? you can stick with your level 95 character, which is superior to all previous levels apart from the level 96+; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to break the cap to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.

Yet SE is babying the lvl cap trial.

[Babekeke]

Then why is SE adjusting the 95 cap fight? you can stick with your level 95 character, which is superior to all previous levels apart from the level 96+; or you can do stupidretardedtrial to break the cap to 99. You have a choice. Noone is forcing you do do anything.

Yet SE is babying the lvl cap trial.

That fight wasn't hard in the first place with a decent setup.

And SE will almost certainly be 'babying' these trials. Be it this year, next year or whenever.

Edit: Oh look I'm too late...

Greetings.

Some of you have already posted the information that was on the Japanese forums, but here it is again, officially.

Required number of items
As a result of adjustments to match the trial difficulty, the below are the current numbers that are planned for the stage 1 version of the weapon upgrades.

• Relic Weapons: 5 items
• Mythic Weapons: 3 items
• Empyrean Weapons: 60 items

※As we are currently carefully looking into the number of items required for stage 2, we will let you know the specifics once the information is available.