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    Yep. Completely hypocritical. Oh wait, no it's not. The server's haven't gone down just because of the disaster, they have gone down because in doing so they may provide vital energy needed to save lives, power resources and help speed up recovery.

    If you put your own personal enjoyment over the well being of an entire country then you just might be a sociopath.

    I also don't think anyone is claiming that if the servers weren't up that they wouldn't be playing, instead they are just stating that they are ok with the servers being down. I have done the exact same things I did with the Haitian earthquake, donated an amount of money and gotten on with my life. I am, unfortunately, powerless to do otherwise.

    The FFXI servers aren't in Haiti. If they were, I would have been ok with them going down then too.
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    I think some people should turn on the tv with your down time from ffxi and watch the news. FFXI was NOT shut down because of the earthquake. FFXI was NOT shut down because of the tsunami.

    FFXI WAS shut down because with power plants being down, and very close to a nuclear meltdown, the country is not running with even close to the electrical power as usual. They are having rolling blackouts to help conserve what power they do have, and thier government asked EVERYBODY to conserve energy. FFXI is not more important than anybody else in Japan who has to conserve.

    or would you rather have FFXI stay up, so when the rolling blackout hits them, it crashes thier servers, possibly damaging them. Or maybe if FFXI stayed online, they could just bypass them and have the rolling blackouts hit the hopitals instead.



    (I appologize for adding to this debate in a thread asking to stop it. I am just getting very tired of people who have no sympathy for what is going on in the world. And before somebody says "I wasnt complaining" if you weren't complaining, this wasnt meant for you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamers View Post
    I think some people should turn on the tv with your down time from ffxi and watch the news. FFXI was NOT shut down because of the earthquake. FFXI was NOT shut down because of the tsunami.

    FFXI WAS shut down because with power plants being down, and very close to a nuclear meltdown, the country is not running with even close to the electrical power as usual. They are having rolling blackouts to help conserve what power they do have, and thier government asked EVERYBODY to conserve energy. FFXI is not more important than anybody else in Japan who has to conserve.

    or would you rather have FFXI stay up, so when the rolling blackout hits them, it crashes thier servers, possibly damaging them. Or maybe if FFXI stayed online, they could just bypass them and have the rolling blackouts hit the hopitals instead.
    Ok well then answer me this. If conserving power was so crucial to people's survival, why havn't they shut down the servers operating these forums yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    lol....
    Well i can see both sides.

    I"m a little annoyed at the servers being shut down also, i'm not going to lie. Is it awful what happened in Japan? You bet - and if this is actually going to help things then i'm all for it, but I don't see how it would. Square Enix also has a responsilbity to their global fanbase as well, as it's an international company, so they need to take their full clientale into account. I assume they took these balances into concern.

    I live near two huge rivers, which flooded couple years back leaving me without power and water for over a week. Shutting down game servers woudn't have helped me a bit, and I really don't understand how doing this in Japan is going to help either. Everyone around those nuclear plants you speak of has already been evacuated. Those plants are already inoperable and not producing any energy, and if anything, shutting down the game for so many japaneese players who probably could use an escape from a reality now more than ever may not have been the wisest thing to do. And I really do doubt taking down the FF11 servers for a week is going to make any real difference what so ever with the problems japan is having right now. But as always, i could be wrong.
    I have no doubt S/E wishes their servers were up. They need money flowing into the country. Also, as someone who has been through a disaster, the only thing that kept me going was I had a job to do. As soon as the crisis was over, I was sicker than a dog. So, I'm sure some of their employees wish the servers were up also. To have some normalcy in their lives.

    So, the fact that S/E chose to close the servers means they felt it necessary, for whatever reason. They are losing revenue and incurring costs at the same time. Businesses don't take that lightly. So, for anyone to assume that S/E made a bad decision closing the servers or feels that S/E needs to hurry up and re-open them, does not understand that S/E has made a decision to lose money when they most will need it. They don't need business advice or whining while the very structures, literally and socially, are collapsing all around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Ok well then answer me this. If conserving power was so crucial to people's survival, why havn't they shut down the servers operating these forums yet?
    IP: 64.208.159.16
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    I've answered you that. Will you please go away now?

    Simple Who.Is lookup. The servers powering these forums are ran in Farmington, USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Ok well then answer me this. If conserving power was so crucial to people's survival, why havn't they shut down the servers operating these forums yet?
    Forums such as this can be run off a PC in your house. Do you know how much energy it takes to run the game servers? Also I'm not even sure if the forums or the POL site are run on a server in Japan, maybe thye are, or maybe they were able to move them to a server in California. And before you ask, there is a big difference between moving forums to a different server and moving all the game servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    But as always, i could be wrong.
    Pretty much the only thing you said that was correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icestein View Post
    IP: 64.208.159.16
    IP Location: Farmington, United States

    I've answered you that. Will you please go away now?

    Simple Who.Is lookup. The servers powering these forums are ran in Farmington, USA.
    It was just a simple question which you answered. No need to get rude about it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randwolf View Post
    I have no doubt S/E wishes their servers were up. They need money flowing into the country. Also, as someone who has been through a disaster, the only thing that kept me going was I had a job to do. As soon as the crisis was over, I was sicker than a dog. So, I'm sure some of their employees wish the servers were up also. To have some normalcy in their lives.

    So, the fact that S/E chose to close the servers means they felt it necessary, for whatever reason. They are losing revenue and incurring costs at the same time. Businesses don't take that lightly. So, for anyone to assume that S/E made a bad decision closing the servers or feels that S/E needs to hurry up and re-open them, does not understand that S/E has made a decision to lose money when they most will need it. They don't need business advice or whining while the very structures, literally and socially, are collapsing all around them.
    First, since you directed this post at my quote i'm going to assume you aiming this at me.

    I never said they made a bad decision. Nor was i whining. Read a post before responding. Your answer will make more sense when you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermute View Post
    This kind of holier-than-thou bullshit is sickening. Where were you when the Earthquake struck Haiti? I bet you were playing FFXI, weren't you? Hypocrites.
    How has this got to do with the current situation? It was horrible what happened in Haiti but ffxi wasn't affected by that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randwolf View Post
    Pretty much your post is calling people out who have been posting about the servers going up. Then your final shot is at the people who are calling people out who have been posting about the servers going up.
    I think you mean servers going down. and how exactly is calling those people out trolling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    lol....
    Well i can see both sides.

    I"m a little annoyed at the servers being shut down also, i'm not going to lie. Is it awful what happened in Japan? You bet - and if this is actually going to help things then i'm all for it, but I don't see how it would. Square Enix also has a responsilbity to their global fanbase as well, as it's an international company, so they need to take their full clientale into account. I assume they took these balances into concern.

    I live near two huge rivers, which flooded couple years back leaving me without power and water for over a week. Shutting down game servers woudn't have helped me a bit, and I really don't understand how doing this in Japan is going to help either. Everyone around those nuclear plants you speak of has already been evacuated. Those plants are already inoperable and not producing any energy, and if anything, shutting down the game for so many japaneese players who probably could use an escape from a reality now more than ever may not have been the wisest thing to do. And I really do doubt taking down the FF11 servers for a week is going to make any real difference what so ever with the problems japan is having right now. But as always, i could be wrong.
    Clearly you don't know why the servers have been turned off.
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