Enmity

[Greatguardian]

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again

How much does your monk hit a Nm turtle or elemental for?

Hell if I know. Which turtle/Elemental NM? Chukwa? Lacovie? Heroes of Abyssea VNMs? Adamantoise? They're not all the same. Pick one.

[Avarice]

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again

GG can't evade to save his life.

[Greatguardian]

GG can't evade to save his life.

Oh yeah, well well, according to the PLD forums your job sucks and you can't keep hate off me. So there!

[Dale]

Hell if I know. Which turtle/Elemental NM? Chukwa? Lacovie? Heroes of Abyssea VNMs? Adamantoise? They're not all the same. Pick one.

ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

[Greatguardian]

ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

idk, 150-200/punch with 2k-3k VSmite? Even if you picked Lacovie the numbers wouldn't be too different. I easily hit 5k-6k average VSmites on normal NMs and IT mobs.

[Avarice]

ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

Putting aside that Monk is already among the top 3 DDs in game at the moment, he has Verethragna, so his numbers on most NMs are going to be in the 3000-5000+'s, even on Chukwa or Lacovie (who really aren't as "defenseful" as you'd think), whereas regular Monks with their Ascetic's Fury will probably be doing about half of that if lucky.

[Dale]

idk, 150-200/punch with 2k-3k VSmite? Even if you picked Lacovie the numbers wouldn't be too different. I easily hit 5k-6k average VSmites on normal NMs and IT mobs.

really, monks can hit it that hard? is that with or without atma. And do you hit elementals for that same kind of damage?

[Greatguardian]

really, monks can hit it that hard? is that with or without atma. And do you hit elementals for that same kind of damage?

Obviously it's with Atma since we're inside Abyssea and NMs are scaled up. I can hit 5k Smites outside Abyssea too with AF3+2 body/Impetus =/. And yes, I hit elementals and avatars and such for about the same, if not more, damage. Those are a lot easier to hit since they typically just have -50% PDT instead of high defense.

[Dale]

Putting aside that Monk is already among the top 3 DDs in game at the moment, he has Verethragna, so his numbers on most NMs are going to be in the 3000-5000+'s, even on Chukwa or Lacovie (who really aren't as "defenseful" as you'd think), whereas regular Monks with their Ascetic's Fury will probably be doing about half of that if lucky.

And how do you know how "defenseful" (i don't know why you said that in quotes, i never used such a word) i think they are?

I was just pulling mobs off the top of my head that had high defense. Stop trying to be so condescending.

[Dale]

Obviously it's with Atma since we're inside Abyssea and NMs are scaled up. I can hit 5k Smites outside Abyssea too with AF3+2 body/Impetus =/. And yes, I hit elementals and avatars and such for about the same, if not more, damage. Those are a lot easier to hit since they typically just have -50% PDT instead of high defense.

How much do you hit them without Atma?

Or an elemental let's say not inside abyssea.