Enmity

[Greever]

I thought the way you framed it was silly cause you neglected to point out a Paladin can dish out some respectable melee damage also and he has cures on top of that. So he can keep his hp topped off also, maintaining a high rate of enmity as well - similiar to what you are saying a warrior or monk can do by using shadows.

I guess it jsut depends what you mean when you say "out-tank". Im sure there are fights were monks and warriors can create more enmity than a Paladin. But there is a lot of fights where a Paladin can create more enmity than a monk or warrior as well. Quite a few mobs out there have insanely high physical defense. Just depends what you are up against, and I think you are exagerating how bad Paladins compare with other melee jobs.

name some of those other nm's plz. cause with the same support to kill said nm, a high end DD will do it better

[Dale]

name some of those other nm's plz. cause with the same support to kill said nm, a high end DD will do it better

Really? Even a NM that is almost immune to physical damage? How would a monk or warrior do better on something like that then would a paladin who can use heals and attonement to create enmity? Say a NM elemental or turtle, something like that.

[Greatguardian]

Really? Even a NM that is almost immune to physical damage? How would a monk or warrior do better on something like that then would a paladin who can use heals and attonement to create enmity? Say a NM elemental or turtle, something like that.

I don't have any issues fighting turtles or elementals on MNK. I sit on over 1,000 Attack when I need to, idling at over 800 without berserk. Please read my previous post as well.

[Dale]

I don't have any issues fighting turtles or elementals on MNK. I sit on over 1,000 Attack when I need to, idling at over 800 without berserk. Please read my previous post as well.

How much do you hit a NM turtle or elemental for with your monk?

[Greatguardian]

How much do you hit a NM turtle or elemental for with your monk?

For more than my Almace PLD buddy does. Zing!

[Avarice]

For more than my Almace PLD buddy does. Zing!

Ha, this guy.

[Dale]

For more than my Almace PLD buddy does. Zing!

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again

How much does your monk hit a Nm turtle or elemental for?

[Greatguardian]

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again

How much does your monk hit a Nm turtle or elemental for?

Hell if I know. Which turtle/Elemental NM? Chukwa? Lacovie? Heroes of Abyssea VNMs? Adamantoise? They're not all the same. Pick one.

[Avarice]

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again

GG can't evade to save his life.