Enmity

[Dale]

u just dont get it do u. there is no relevant mob in this game that a pld can tank with out support. If a mob can be shadow tanked (/nin) give any DD the same support you would give to a pld and the DD will tank just as good if not better. The same goes for blood tanking. as mentioned before getting -pdt% gear is a joke now, and given the same support pld loses this battle also.

Who gives a shit if a pld can cure itself in an event where said pld needs support? 90% of the time, if ur curing urself for survival AND u have support, ur getting cure bombed, in which case destroys ur arguement that u can use cure for hate. But then again if ur talking about cure spamming for hate/survival, DNC dose it better.

U see my last statement? ill repeat it, DNC dose it better. No matter what arguement u make, u can attach that statement to any other job and its the god honest truth. There are only a few exceptions, but thats barely a handful where Pld dose it better. And that is the real problem with the job, not lack of holding hate or JA's.

I don't know what you mean when you say "relevant" mob. I tank mobs all the time without healing support - but i suppose none of those are "relevant" in your opinion

Anyway, i'm getting tired of this silly argument. Play paladin like you want. If you don't want to heal yourself with your paladin then don't. If you want to be a dps with your paladin, have at it. If you think the job sucks and every other job is better, just play a different job. I don't see us getting anywhere on this, cause we aren't going to agree. And if SE wants to buff us, fine - I won't complain. I love buffs. Just don't say the job sucks or that every other job is better, cause that's what i got a beef with.