Beastmaster unfair disadvantage

[Vold]

Cost of jugs, huh? You mean like, oh I don't know, requiring fricking dragon meat isn't cost enough? The TH pets and the turtle are some pricey son of a bitches. And they aren't the only ones. I mean seriously, how much do you want a jug to cost for the right to zone with them? 500k a stack??? This is just more proof that the dev team does not live in the same reality as us.

No, this doesn't make sense. What does make sense is for them to say, the trade off for zoning would be a 15-20 min timer on call beast. Which would be brutal to BST but not anymore brutal than other pet jobs. Not that I want to see this happen, btw. But you know, maybe I wouldn't mind it. Maybe if you're against the idea of a longer timer on CB, you need to be a little more protective of your pet and rely a little less on that timer. Just throwing that out there but I'm aware of the occasional instance where that 5 min timer is absolutely sorta kinda required(like KC BC, or the final limit break)

And so what if a SMN pet can zone? Am I being told here that these beasts and avatars can't zone just because they're "cheap" to use? Lol? If you really REALLY think about it, it is 100% pointless for them to vanish upon zoning. So. Yeah.

Bottom line: A BST jug costs money. It should be zoning along with us, period. It's not a freebie pet, and the damn things have a timer for how long they are active before they poof. Why are they disappearing upon zoning?

and the damn things have a timer for how long they are active before they poof. Why are they disappearing upon zoning?

and the damn things have a timer for how long they are active before they poof. Why are they disappearing upon zoning?

and the damn things have a timer for how long they are active before they poof. Why are they disappearing upon zoning?

/epicfiveminutefacepalmbecauseheadhurtstryingtounderstanddevteam

You know, not that losing my pets hurts me in the least. But dammit I hate using a TH pet for 15 minutes on say Kirin then losing it because I zoned to do more farming, so I just head to the house. Think about that dev team, if Cam relays this information to you. You could time sink me more by allowing my pet to zone in sky. You gonna take that?! letting me get away with not being time sinked and stuff. I dare you to time sink me more. I double dog dare you! Bring it!

[katz]

You are all reacting as though its only the bst jugs that do any damage. Get off your back lines and use your axes. Bst have 2 shots at killing mobs. If you dont like the cost of jugs then make your own its way cheaper. AS to loosing pets yes it happens, yes you have to replace them, if a rng uses his ammo hes lost it, no different to bst using jugs instead of charming.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

You are all reacting as though its only the bst jugs that do any damage. Get off your back lines and use your axes. Bst have 2 shots at killing mobs. If you dont like the cost of jugs then make your own its way cheaper. AS to loosing pets yes it happens, yes you have to replace them, if a rng uses his ammo hes lost it, no different to bst using jugs instead of charming.

Wrong! If you're going to be a BST and NOT call a pet then you may as well be a proper DD job, should you engaged? Of course if the enemy does not have crazy AoE which will kill you in one-shot. It's all about knowing when is appropriate, and when is not.

Don't you start comparing Ammo to Jugs, just because SE claims it so they are in no way similar, interestingly RNG can save ammo via things like Recycle, whereas BST can not.

In Voidwatch: RNG's weakness WS' all can be done with any ammo, and they don't loose it everytime they start a new VW, Have to keep changing pets on a 5 minute timer costing a fortune or so on.

Like it or not BST is a pet job, no one wants Charmed pets to zone they want pets they supposedly fully control for upto 2 hours to have the same ability as the others of zoning pets. Call Beast is a 5:00 timer, not 0:30 timer with never ending pets like SMN we are locked.

SE are talking rubbish in comparing SMN and BST as they are not alike.

[Siiri]

Considering beastmasters are soloing relics, soloing emp weapons etc, they sure do complain a lot.

[Yinnyth]

Considering beastmasters are soloing relics, soloing emp weapons etc, they sure do complain a lot.

Warriors sure do complain a lot, too. So do white mages. And corsairs. And bards. And don't even get me started on how much thieves complain.

Or are you saying that BST is better than all those jobs, so anyone who plays it has no right to complain? Then if they're so damned good, why does it get less invites than any of those other jobs?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Considering beastmasters are soloing relics, soloing emp weapons etc, they sure do complain a lot.

So can most jobs, it's just BST's are not accepted in parties so they're forced to at a much slower rate because of it too.

[Elexia]

Considering beastmasters are soloing relics, soloing emp weapons etc, they sure do complain a lot.

They need more. It's like when RDMs were bitching they didn't have x even though they were the only job that can solo Gods back in the day.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

They need more. It's like when RDMs were bitching they didn't have x even though they were the only job that can solo Gods back in the day.

lol, you're funny!

BST can solo lvl.75 content at 99, and Abyssea which any job can.

I'll ignore the RDM comment because that's just laughable.

[Ketaru]

Warriors sure do complain a lot, too. So do white mages. And corsairs. And bards. And don't even get me started on how much thieves complain.

Or are you saying that BST is better than all those jobs, so anyone who plays it has no right to complain? Then if they're so damned good, why does it get less invites than any of those other jobs?

Same ol' player mantra from past eternal:

It can solo, so it's all good! Never mind that it's a job that, in a group oriented game, most groups see little value in.

[Phogg]

"With familiar pets, you spend money on jugs to gain fighting power, which is essentially the same as other consumables like ammunition."

You don't lose half a stack of ammunition when you zone though.....Seriously SE, I have literally no reason to play my favorite job (BST) over any other option I have at this point, and your response to issues with the job don't even make any sense.

If jug pets can't zone because they are considered "monsters", why are they considered monsters? They are not charmed pets, they are consumable items. Why can we not get the same option to "stuff" our pets bag into jugs at full HP like Wyverns or Puppets? Because of a 15 minute timer difference?

SE logic gets more ridiculous by the day. Consumer confidence at an all-time low.