Beastmaster unfair disadvantage

[Quetzacoatl]

Wow, how Droll.

Lets pretend BST's are the only job to pull more than one mob... it's so "in."

We'll forget Fell Cleavers, Charged Whiskers, Aeolian Edges etcetera....

PS. TH1 is better than nothing, triggers are the only thing that matters in Abyssea.

Those aren't even practical in Dynamis unless you go in as an entire linkshell and have some spare time farming dynamis-xarcabard after a few ADL runs or whatever the plan was. Assuming they're set up for that, anyway. >_>

For real though, any BST expecting to keep 4-5 mobs (5-7 if duo) is disrespectful and is going to get their mobs taken. Yellow is fair game, and I won't hesitate to take them.

[Zinato]

As far as I'm concerned, they can enjoy their low droprate unless they bring a THF friend along. I'd also like to see what those BSTs would say to mobs being stolen with a WS after a pet's target turns yellow.

Don't hog dynamis mobs, folks!

Seems you've never played BST, difference between Hobs and Yuly is roughly -30 to take home that's out of 150-200. (Even after update Yuly will have TH1 btw) Less take home means more runs to do, more people to piss off and more killing with a stronger pet to make up the difference. The argument you used has been played to death and it was wrong day one. Don't mix up Hate for Competition and Hate for BST it's not the same.

[Mavrick]

Seems you've never played BST, difference between Hobs and Yuly is roughly -30 to take home that's out of 150-200. (Even after update Yuly will have TH1 btw) Less take home means more runs to do, more people to piss off and more killing with a stronger pet to make up the difference. The argument you used has been played to death and it was wrong day one. Don't mix up Hate for Competition and Hate for BST it's not the same.

You (and the others as well) need to stop responding to people like Quetzacoatl. The guy is obviously a troll and contributes nothing to the thread other than flamebaiting everyone. Since this post is now on "Hot Topics" and featured on the main page you can expect more just like him popping in and turning this into yet another anti-bst/dynamis "haha bst-nerf" thread.

Greetings!

I’d like to give some feedback in regards to pet behavior when changing areas and kicking off confrontations.

• Differences between pet behavior when changing areas
Wyvern, automatons, and adventuring fellows all have long recast times and if they didn’t carry over between areas, it would be quite a large penalty. Based on this, they will not disappear when changing areas.

Well Puppetmasters now have Deus Ex Automata which allows them to call autos every 60 seconds. All PUP needs to do is restore automaton to full HP, deactivate and they'll have "Activate" fully recharged and have a automaton at full strength. That is well beyond BST's 5 min recast on call beast.

Summoners literally has no recast at all. As soon as they change zones their pets are ready to be called... And they are free.

So, from that prospective it actually makes more sense to allow jug pets to zone than it does to allow automatons and avatars to zone.

On the other hand, familiar pets and avatars use jugs and cost MP so the penalty is not as large. With familiar pets, you spend money on jugs to gain fighting power, which is essentially the same as other consumables like ammunition.
With that said, it is technically possible; however, in the case that pets did not disappear when changing areas, the cost of using that pet to its full extent would be increased (the cost of the jug).

I feel it is a lost cause trying to get anything changed or adjusted on Beastmaster. Every time someone mentions an adjustment that sounds very simple and plausible it gets shot down for illogical reasons.
I applause the development team for finally giving us formidable pets 76+ (even though we asked 5+ years ago). But after getting the extremely worthless "Run Wild" ability on a 15 min recast o.O! and having this much difficult to get something as simple as allowing jugs to zone I reckon nothing is going to change for BSTs anytime soon.

[Lyandra]

How narrow-minded. While it is true BST can hold more than one mob at once, they're not the only job capable of doing so (i.e. BLU). As it's been said before the trigger proc does more for drops than TH does, so that's not gonna change much. As for me, I have THF with TH7, but I'm still going to fight Dynamis as my BST thanks to minimal downtime and just as much kill force vs THF. So ya, sorry.

[Quetzacoatl]

How narrow-minded. While it is true BST can hold more than one mob at once, they're not the only job capable of doing so (i.e. BLU).

Tell me how often you see a BLU in there.

As it's been said before the trigger proc does more for drops than TH does, so that's not gonna change much. As for me, I have THF with TH7, but I'm still going to fight Dynamis as my BST thanks to minimal downtime and just as much kill force vs THF. So ya, sorry.

As long as you maintain a maximum of mobs to pull and not overstep your boundaries, not a single f#@% will be given.

[Fupafighter]

Not like this will change things once the BST TH Nerf hits.

byebyebandwagondynamisbsts DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

And hi dnc bandwagon.....

[Quetzacoatl]

And hi dnc bandwagon.....

Can't solo without proper TH

[Fupafighter]

Can't solo without proper TH

Dnc/thf is actually pretty solid.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Can't solo without proper TH

I go in as nin/dnc and only get about 30% less coins then pre nerf bst.

[Quetzacoatl]

Dnc/thf is actually pretty solid.

Need more locked subjob for dat white, duo with THF/DNC!

I go in as nin/dnc and only get about 30% less coins then pre nerf bst.

y u even do that to begin with? :[