[dev1076] Healing Adjustments

[cidbahamut]

Sounds like a situation where you'd be better off just throwing more White Mages at the problem.

*shrug*

[Mirabelle]

More WHM's do not increase your proc abilities. A stronger WHM will leave room for another proc'ing job.

[Raksha]

More WHM's do not increase your proc abilities. A stronger WHM will leave room for another proc'ing job.

I think what he's saying is that if you need Healer's roll to survive whatever you're fighting, then an extra WHM would be better.

[Motenten]

But a second whm offers nothing to increase damage output (assuming the first whm was already handling hastes). The cor at least has a second roll, plus his/her own damage, and can change which rolls are used based on what's immediately needed. It's not going to be commonplace, but I can see it being situationally useful.

Anyway, more interested in knowing if this is just another minor convenience patch (which it seems to be, along with the rest that were announced in the last couple days), and if they're still continuing with the 'real' adjustments to the healing formulas.

[Raksha]

But a second whm offers nothing to increase damage output (assuming the first whm was already handling hastes). The cor at least has a second roll, plus his/her own damage, and can change which rolls are used based on what's immediately needed. It's not going to be commonplace, but I can see it being situationally useful.

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Member: K i'll switch to COR.

everyone else:



Sure I can imagine a potential situation where a whm is overkill and a cor would be just right, but it seems so rare as to be absurd.

[SpankWustler]

New Healer's Roll on a party for guaranteed free curagas with Orison Pantaloons +2. You kill stuff faster if your DDs don't die, so bonuses to keeping them alive > letting them rip hate and get squashed. Also means no waiting around for un-weak at the end of every fight, just move onto next rift.

Also, Penury Cure 5s should now also be free.

I think, in Voidwatch at least, casting times and recast timers would become an issue before MP cost if something were tearing that many people apart. Healer's Roll would be more likely to become useful by making Cure IV/Curaga III viable than by saving MP. Also, a defensive Roll wouldn't be doing much while Fanatic's Drinks were active or the monster was terrorized.

This is an interesting point, though, even if it's a bit of stretch to apply to Voidwatch. Legion is already known to have tight time limits and constant fighting that punishes people for being weakened or needing to rest, will presumably have monsters capable of doing a lot of damage, and will presumably not have any temporary items to restore MP.

[Motenten]

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Member: K i'll switch to COR.

You have that backwards. If you have someone available to do cor, they should already be on cor. It's:

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Cor: I'll change a roll to Healer's Roll to help the healers keep up.

instead of

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Cor: K i'll switch to Whm.

If you don't already have someone on cor then the entire argument is moot (and silly).

[Raksha]

You have that backwards. If you have someone available to do cor, they should already be on cor. It's:

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Cor: I'll change a roll to Healer's Roll to help the healers keep up.

instead of

Group leader: We don't have adequate healing.
Cor: K i'll switch to Whm.

If you don't already have someone on cor then the entire argument is moot (and silly).

It was an exaggeration to point out the absurdity.

But, so be it. I trust your judgement if you think that healer's roll will actually make that much of a difference.

[Neisan_Quetz]

The problem is the number of rolls Cor can keep up, which is still limited to 2. And the fact most of VW is proc > temp > zerg.

Can see it possibly being useful for legion however.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm totally clueless as to the cure potency received gear, as most of it seems really pointless right now. If you cast curaga on yourself, with potency received gear on, does the rest of the group receive the bonus? or just you? for example if I cast curaga 3 on me with %30 in gear does it go
<me> 520 hp recovered
<player2> 400 hp recovered
?