New 99 trials

[Nynja]

where did I say unlocking smn or doing lv75 missions is hard? lol, you're such a bad troll.

[Apelila]

At this point it is clear that you didn't read that you didn't farm any ADL popset nor read what I said. On day one everyone in a group of 6 would farm a popset on their own, and 1 run is more than enough for a duo to get all the pops(beside nq dl but this one can be killed in 1 minute right before arch DL). You don't have to farm the popset as a linkshell. It would actually be pretty dumb as you will end up bringing a lot of leecher that never farm anything. Also the drop rate are 100% on the NMs.

Again you didn't read so stop arguing with me. 6 real & skilled people will kill ADL without trouble. Just don't bring some of the posters here.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Also, El oh el, I am not arguing with you. I might as well be arguing with a 6 year old on the semantics of Santa Claus, because you're making stuff up.

Do the impossible, See the invisible
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[Shadowsong]

I can understand that killing 5 ADL is hard for someone that think unlokcing SMN or doing missions is hard.

I'm completely convinced PChan does nothing but play this game, but why is he still so bad at it?
You expect people to level a SMN mule, get to rank 5, complete ToAU, beat all 3 city Dynas, Beat Beauc, all on a character you don't care about, just so you can do a second ADL? Not to mention some people would have to buy a second system in order to dual box because of 1) objections to Windower (lol), or B) Shitty computers.
What drugs are you on, and can I please have some?

[Greatguardian]

He doesn't expect anyone to do anything.

He's fine talking about theory. In theory, can someone level 12 Smn mules for Alex? Sure. Will he? No. Will anyone else? Probably not. Is it relevant? No, not really, but keep on feeding him.

Pchan is one person with one friend and 6 accounts between them. He wants to think ADL can be 6-manned because it's something he's capable of doing. If not, he'll just get pickups or buy the items anyways. Make no mistake, he will probably get a 99 Relic faster than almost anyone here. He won't live up to a single iota of the claims he's making but he will end up with the prize so you may as well just ignore him and let him make his outlandish, irrelevant claims.

[Zaps]

Adding fuel to the fire.

ADL is -not- feasible for most shells. Not because it can't be done, but beacuse the time and effort put into them isn't worth the reward. Thank you SE for the useless bottleneck. I will now to get to spend the next 3 months spamming ADL for all the relics in my shell. Potentially keeping us from making about a mil a day per person.

to the "people who already started collecting umbral marrows so we cant change the trial to kills" comment. Easy fix, make stage 1 kills and stage 2 marrows. If we HAVE to keep ADL in the picture at least make it not terribly stupid. 5 kills work. 20 marrows works. Other then there being NO reason to kill ADL, lets face it, the gear he drops is useless.

Or just make marrow drop off other arch bosses. Literally anything would be better then ADL.


tldr: Relic trial is not "completable by a majority of relic holders", Better trials are easily implemented, I'm sure they don't care.

[Alerith]

Pchan's posts are slipping from "lol" to "pathetic". It's like it's not even trying to be a good troll anymore. /disappoint.

Also, video proof of this duo pops and six man ADL? What are we on, page four on the matter?

[Natasha]

Adding fuel to the fire.

ADL is -not- feasible for most shells. Not because it can't be done, but beacuse the time and effort put into them isn't worth the reward. Thank you SE for the useless bottleneck. I will now to get to spend the next 3 months spamming ADL for all the relics in my shell. Potentially keeping us from making about a mil a day per person.


Or just make marrow drop off other arch bosses. Literally anything would be better then ADL.


tldr: Relic trial is not "completable by a majority of relic holders", Better trials are easily implemented, I'm sure they don't care.

Now, let me first say I agree... Arch Dynamis Lord is really just a bad, bad, bad target for this trial (least stage 1).

BUT, seeing that comment (underlined) just makes me half curious as to how well sarcasm is translated. heh~

[Alerith]

I'm fairly certain it was sarcasm. Unless they make more ??? for popping multiple DL and ADL, it creates a horrible bottleneck where not only are people going to have to wait to pop either NM, the waits are going to inevitably cause lost time in Dynamis.

[Natasha]

I'm fairly certain it was sarcasm. Unless they make more ??? for popping multiple DL and ADL, it creates a horrible bottleneck where not only are people going to have to wait to pop either NM, the waits are going to inevitably cause lost time in Dynamis.

Oh I understood what they meant, I'm just wondering how well that can be translated to our Japanese developers. (does the community team even directly translate comments for the dev team?) idk.

[MarkovChain]

He's fine talking about theory. In theory, can someone level 12 Smn mules for Alex? Sure. Will he? No. Will anyone else? Probably not.

Lolz. Thing is way too many players (like nynja) will dual box a dynamis run for coins instead of leveling 1 bst on their main and a mule (and I repeat, not an alt), which seems pretty idiotic money wise. Then they come here QQ about how doing missions is painful. Oh and yeah supply is so low that all mythics owners do that. This or they waste their RL money on server transfers...

He wants to think ADL can be 6-manned because it's something he's capable of doing..

I think way too many people of this thread never even attempted arch DL and post their opinion on what's feasable and what is not. The fight is the same difficulty as NQ DL if you have perfect defense. The very first attempt I did @ 95 I died from death on tera slash and mdk managed to almost kill it. So yeah, that's what the game is right now guys. BG gimps come complain on the official forums that building a party or alliance to kill a pretty weak NM is not feasable. I bet most of them were killing (read : camping) Fafnir in alliances in 2008. And I'm also willing to bet that they have camped things like cerberus way to many times for an item that sold 500k to split in the LS. AT 75 Nynja also explained us, for instance, that some of the salvage NMs were not duoable (he is still in the "game is hard" period apparently), using this [wrong] statement as an excuse for not farming salvage.