New 99 trials

[Mahoro]

As a PLD-preferred piece, it's probably no more useful than the other glowy weapons for which people spam Voidwatch hundreds of times. Sort of the equivalent to Ephemeron for BLU and Coruscanti for THF/DNC, even though those items only benefit 1-2 jobs. Biggest difference being, outside of large LS's, people have had difficulty doing ADL runs whereas VW is extremely PUG-friendly.

[Ravenmore]

As a PLD-preferred piece, it's probably no more useful than the other glowy weapons for which people spam Voidwatch hundreds of times. Sort of the equivalent to Ephemeron for BLU and Coruscanti for THF/DNC, even though those items only benefit 1-2 jobs. Biggest difference being, outside of large LS's, people have had difficulty doing ADL runs whereas VW is extremely PUG-friendly.

Those weapons are impovements(well if they ever fix one) and those two jobs DW. Not to mention other valueable drops.

[Mahoro]

Those weapons are impovements(well if they ever fix one) and those two jobs DW. Not to mention other valueable drops.

I guess the ultimate test would be if you had PLD and this thing dropped in the treasure pool during an LS event (ADL is unfortunately not PUG-friendly), would you cast lots or refrain entirely, saying its not an improvement to your job? I agree it's not as "useful" as Coruscanti though.

[Runespider]

In 8 months when everyone pushed their relic to 99 after the initial wave...how do new relics get pushed to 99?

FFXI has always always been like this, if you don't do new missions shortly after they add them it's hard to get them done, if you don't do your VW clears soon after addition it's hard to get them done..same for everything. Everything in FFXI is a mad rush for the first 6 months after then extreme difficulty finding people to do them with after.

It's a joke they keep using the word balance and then throw this kind of content out, it really is. When they are forcing the vast majority of their players to completely opt out of the stuff they are making you would think they would realise they are doing it wrong, but no they just keep doing it.. I know their big plan is to make these trials horrific at the start for the hard hard core and then slowly reign them back to reality but to keep the handful happy they are upsetting everyone else. Not a good idea really in my opinion.

[Unctgtg]

I love everyone's logic. Trying to compare this game to 4 years ago. Not going to happen. SE really is driving players away. If they really do require us to get 20 ADLs items, they will hear it even more. They might have gotten the idea, of the number of topics, not just in the NA forums but the rest, we do not want this, and it is frankly stupid for them to even bring this into the game. 20 ADL kills for stage 2 would be sufficient.

[Nynja]

You copy pasted the exact same post in 3 threads...? why would you do that?

[Alerith]

Also, wouldn't Sagasinger be good for PLD when wanting to jack a buff from the enemy? Use your normal sword until say, Orthrus puts up his stoneskin and blaze spikes. Switch to Sagasinger, peel off one of them, then go back to your regular sword.

Sure, TP is an "issue", but honestly, that's a pretty potent stoneskin...

Hell, steal his blaze spikes then simply cancel it off yourself.

It's a tactical weapon more than a fulltime weapon.

[Brolic]

Also, wouldn't Sagasinger be good for PLD when wanting to jack a buff from the enemy? Use your normal sword until say, Orthrus puts up his stoneskin and blaze spikes. Switch to Sagasinger, peel off one of them, then go back to your regular sword.

Sure, TP is an "issue", but honestly, that's a pretty potent stoneskin...

Hell, steal his blaze spikes then simply cancel it off yourself.

It's a tactical weapon more than a fulltime weapon.

why would you have pld in "_______"

[Alerith]

why would you have pld in "_______"

Cause it's the best job ever!

And Pchan's stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

[Nynja]

Sure, TP is an "issue", but honestly, that's a pretty potent stoneskin...

[22:16:42]Orthrus readies Magma Hoplon.
[22:16:42]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:42]Orthrus takes 156 points of damage.
[22:16:42]Additional effect: poison.
[22:16:42]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:42]Orthrus takes 152 points of damage.
[22:16:42]Nynja hits Orthrus for 68 points of damage.
[22:16:43]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:43]Orthrus takes 150 points of damage.
[22:16:44]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:44]Orthrus takes 142 points of damage.
[22:16:44]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:44]Orthrus takes 0 points of damage.
[22:16:44]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:44]Orthrus takes 112 points of damage.
[22:16:45]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:45]Orthrus takes 131 points of damage.
[22:16:45]Orthrus's spikes deal 26 points of damage to Nynja.
[22:16:45]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:45]Orthrus takes 0 points of damage.
[22:16:46]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:46]Orthrus takes 155 points of damage.
[22:16:46]Orthrus's spikes deal 27 points of damage to Nynja.
[22:16:46]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:46]Orthrus takes 0 points of damage.
[22:16:47]Orthrus's spikes deal 26 points of damage to Nynja.
[22:16:47]Orthrus starts casting Fire III.
[22:16:47]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:47]Orthrus takes 0 points of damage.
[22:16:48]Orthrus hits Nynja for 406 points of damage.
[22:16:48]Orthrus's spikes deal 27 points of damage to Nynja.
[22:16:48]Additional effect: Nynja takes 37 additional points of damage.
[22:16:48]Vermy starts casting Cure VI on Nynja.
[22:16:48]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:48]Orthrus takes 0 points of damage.
[22:16:49]Nynja hits Orthrus for 28 points of damage.
[22:16:49]Kehhiko starts casting Cure VI on Nynja.
[22:16:49]Orthrus's spikes deal 27 points of damage to Nynja.
[22:16:50]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[22:16:50]Orthrus takes 32 points of damage.
[22:16:50]Orthrus's spikes deal 27 points of damage to Nynja.

Theres some overflow in attack rounds, hence why it goes 100-100-0-100-100-100-0-0-0-0

but the basis is there: the stoneskin potency is...impotent.