New 99 trials

[macross]

What's not current about dynamis? There's relic +2 upgrades you can farm and upgrade. ADL is still a semi challenge. Heck how many people have even killed ADL vs flan/ogre?

[Ravenmore]

What's not current about dynamis? There's relic +2 upgrades you can farm and upgrade. ADL is still a semi challenge. Heck how many people have even killed ADL vs flan/ogre?

Thats the content you would be giving up to do ADL. And there is nothing challenging about a fight that you can get boned out of a drop cause you pick the wrong clone with no why to tell. So while you can buy the items no one in their right mind will farm ADL to sell its drops. With the emp items people are still doing fights that drop them and if they want to get back any of the gil they wasted on them they will sell.

Also the days of giving one person all the coins are long over, no one is that much of a blind sheep much less people.

[Kimble]

Its been brought up already. Doing Dynamis for someones relic is an opportunity cost. It requires you to skip doing your own runs to work on your own relics/farm for currency for money. If you are doing ADL, you won't be getting nearly as many +2 upgrades as you woudl on your own.

You can also do VWNMs a lot more then 2 hours a day, once a day. And the other people there are getting something out of it for their time.

[Insaniac]

There's no cinder/dross in circulation because the few people with 95s are snatching them up so they can finish the second the trial goes live. They probably never even make it to bazaar because someone in the alliance is buying them as they drop. It sucks that emps are stuck with another gil trial but if you can go a few weeks with your 95 while the 10 "NEED IT NOW" people finish the prices will probably drop back down to 500kish since there's so few 95s out there.

[Draylo]

I think the empy trials are pretty ridiculous. Once people stop doing a certain NM, you have lower and lower chances as the days go by, to finish your weapon in a reasonable time/gil cost. The whole system is pretty stupid, would it have killed them to include a point system so you could exchange the points for empy upgrade items, similar to how certain magian weapons use bastion items?

[Insaniac]

I think the empy trials are pretty ridiculous. Once people stop doing a certain NM, you have lower and lower chances as the days go by, to finish your weapon in a reason time/gil cost. The whole system is pretty stupid, would it have killed them to include a point system so you could exchange the points for empy upgrade items, similar to how certain magian weapons use bastion items?

I agree. The terrible gear drop rates aren't gonna be enough to keep people doing HMP droppers forever. As new events come out to draw peoples attention away the supply will get lower and lower. They will eventually have to add HMPs at least to other content. Well you would think they would have to but we all know how that worked out with alexandrite.

[Nynja]

I think the empy trials are pretty ridiculous. Once people stop doing a certain NM, you have lower and lower chances as the days go by, to finish your weapon in a reasonable time/gil cost. The whole system is pretty stupid, would it have killed them to include a point system so you could exchange the points for empy upgrade items, similar to how certain magian weapons use bastion items?

Because cinder/dross obviously wont drop from VW4 mobs based on the obvious notion that plates dont drop from VW3 mobs...OWAIT THEY DO

It's not the 95 holders buying them up, it's the resellers trying to capitalize on 95 holders. I know one guy who bought 30 of them when they were 100k, now trying to sell em for 1.5m each.

And whos fault is that? The items that would have been used for emp upgrades were known since Dec 14 (iirc), the fact you let them sit in bazaar's thinking 100k is too expensive is your own dumb move.

I mean, really, you were one of the first 95 emps upgraded iirc (or was that Eijin)...you upgraded yours on Nov 10 (OMG DETECTIVE WORK!!!!), and the patch was on Sep 20, you obtained 1500 HMP's in less than two months, and NOW youre making a stink about 60 riftdross/cinders? R O F L

[Kimble]

At least then, it doesnt really cost the other 17 people to help you do it. Just stones really.

[Zhronne]

So Gimpchan trolled in the other thread and they used it as an excuse to delete it?
It's the first time in 15 years of internet that I see, on an important and official forum, a thread as big as that one deleted instead of moderated/locked.
Tells a lot I guess, or maybe it doesn't.

Still, it doesn't change the fact we're getting bent to 90° once again. I'd wish for a lot of people to stop paying their monthly fees at least for a month or two, as a "global strike" to give Devs a signal of how unhappy we are with these lasts announcements and many others that happened over the last months, but sadly we're all too addicted to this game for that to happen.

[macross]

It's not the 95 holders buying them up, it's the resellers trying to capitalize on 95 holders. I know one guy who bought 30 of them when they were 100k, now trying to sell em for 1.5m each. Sadly I'm sure some rich guy will buy em all just to have the 99 done, but that guy won't be me. I really wonder how many 95s will even get made, being that qilin isn't spammed no more. Heck it still took me 1 month to get 1500 back when there were alwasy 3 full allys farming qilin all the time.