New 99 trials

[Tamoa]

Just because you can't be assed to farm relics doesn't mean anyone will (apparently you are only good at abyssea weapon according to your FFXIAH thing). If the majority of Voidwatch players can be assed to spam their stones in order to sell the few plates for 150k I'm sure they'll be willing to team up and sell an umbral marrow for 10 millions. I mean some people can be assed to do 6 KCNMs which before the warp thing required much more than a dynamis run with much less reward. It's just about how much people are willing to pay for it. People are willing to pay 150k per plate on my server which is 225M for the level 95 stage of empy why wouldn't they do the same for relic...

Against my own better judgment I'm going to respond to this.

1. I never got a relic because back @ 75 cap none of them (for the jobs I had leveled back then) were tempting enough for me to justify the amount of effort/gil that it would take. Where were your relic @ 75 cap? Owait, you didn't have one either.

2. At the moment I'd rather finish my current goals than work on a relic.

3. What Insaniac said - I don't know a single soul that does voidwatch for the sole purpose of farming heavy metal plates to sell. People are either keeping them for their own empyrean weapon(s), or they are after other drops and if they happen to get plates, they sell them.

4. Comparing the relative ease of obtaining heavy metal plates by doing voidwatch, to farming ADL, is completely retarded.

[wish12oz]

Where were your relics @ 75 cap? Owait, you didn't have one either.

Does anything else really need to be said?
Pchan, you're always late to the party for everything, quit acting like you did everything first. You can farm tons of gil to buy heavy metal plates and relics now? Good for you, so can anyone with half a brain.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, and go trio an ADL pop set and then kill it with 6 and post the video on youtube or something, or is this going to be like everything else you said you can do, and couldn't. Brewing Dragua still?

More of your posts yet I dont see a duoed ADL popset...

[Alerith]

Just because you can't be assed to farm relics doesn't mean anyone will (apparently you are only good at abyssea weapon according to your FFXIAH thing). If the majority of Voidwatch players can be assed to spam their stones in order to sell the few plates for 150k I'm sure they'll be willing to team up and sell an umbral marrow for 10 millions. I mean some people can be assed to do 6 KCNMs which before the warp thing required much more than a dynamis run with much less reward. It's just about how much people are willing to pay for it. People are willing to pay 150k per plate on my server which is 225M for the level 95 stage of empy why wouldn't they do the same for relic...

Oh...my....gawd....

This is better than Comedy Central.

[MarkovChain]

have fun standing by your bullshit as per usual when here you are after the coming update without a ninety-nine stage relic, just like everyone else with their relic(s), all because the trial in-itself is utmost fucking ridiculous if they don't change it dramatically, yet people such as yourself can't understand a simple concept

let's assume there's at least eighteen relics in some of the best shells these days (which isn't highly unlikely by any means); granted, usually 2~3 are on the same character, but for this instance, let's assume they're spread across an alliance-worth of people so that everyone has one (not that it really matters, but for the sake of simplicity since we all acknowledge your i.q level being below average room temperature),

18(people) x 20(kills) =

fill in the blank you dumb fuck, because i don't know about you, but myself,

Your problem is that you can't do anything without your LS. I bet you do VW in a LS too. Arch DL was decently hard at 90 that's about it. We are now level 99 guys. ADL is basically a joke. PW is like a HQ version of buble berny.

[Insaniac]

People don't do VW to sell plates you frothing moron. They do it for the gear and sell the plates because they drop and they don't want them.

[Nynja]

Oh pchans posting...wheres his triod adl popset?

[MarkovChain]

I wonder how people managed to do Salvage or Einherjar back then, since apprently lotting against others is such a problem. As far as effort is concerned getting an Odin popset was much more work than what it is to get an arch DL popset....

[Alerith]

I wonder how people managed to do Salvage or Einherjar back then, since apprently lotting against others is such a problem. As far as effort is concerned getting an Odin popset was much more work than what it is to get an arch DL popset....

See, there are these things called linkshells. And these linkshells sometimes gather for certain events, like Salvage or Einherjar. And these linkshells use a system of points to determine who gets what.

1) You're not going to find a shell that specifically devotes it's entire existence to ADL.
2) If you were lotting against 17 people in your Salvage or Einherjar shells, you were doing it wrong.
3) You pop Odin?

[MarkovChain]

See, there are these things called linkshells. And these linkshells sometimes gather for certain events, like Salvage or Einherjar. And these linkshells use a system of points to determine who gets what.

1) You're not going to find a shell that specifically devotes it's entire existence to ADL.
2) If you were lotting against 17 people in your Salvage or Einherjar shells, you were doing it wrong.
3) You pop Odin?

Point systems don't work. Odin is best to be done free lot. Salvage was best done in shouts.

ADL popset nms can be duoed/trioed without providing any proof

Don't need "proof" to show that a level 90 NM can be killed by 2 level 99 players.....For your info I've also farmed an arch DL popset like 2 weeks after neo dynamis was realeased so .. at 90.

[Apelila]

Point systems don't work. Odin is best to be done free lot. Salvage was best done in shouts.

Don't need "proof" to show that a level 90 NM can be killed by 2 level 99 players.....For your info I've also farmed an arch DL popset like 2 weeks after neo dynamis was realeased so .. at 90.

I'm having trouble following your logic with why point systems do not work since you haven't given any support for this stance. Since you skipped my post and focused on points, lets point out why you would be wrong in this situation.

Earlier others and myself pointed out that the relic trials do not directly compare to previous systems. You need an item more than once. Hence with a point system, if say 18 relic holders formed a static they would all have to attend every run perfectly to have the same chance at the 20 items required to upgrade to 99. Assuming they where able to farm and kill exactly one ADL every day, that would be 320 days of nonstop dynamis fun and excitement before all their pretty gold weapons attained almost ultimate potential. The lot order would be naturally established over 20 runs, with some unlucky people making up the bottom 10.

But wait! The BLM cannot come on a day where they are #1 in line! Suddenly, his spot is taken by the crafty WHM who takes her place in line. The next day the same routine starts over, but now the BLM is a spot behind in the queue, like a manic game of musical chairs where the chairs don't get removed for 46 weeks. The order continues to shuffle, and at 37 weeks the first 99 is finished after a friend sold their 'unwated' marrow for his 'unwanted' gil. Tired and exhausted, of course the proud owner of a level 99 Brovura would like nothing more than to help his fellow man for an additional 10 weeks, investing the amount of time normally required for school, a part time job, community service, spending time with family, or other mundane social activities. After doing the same event for 259 days, for a total of 518 hours, or 24.5 days or time spent of course they'll want nothing more than to help others with the same goal. After all the last ADL is finally fell, the group will have spent 640 hours or 26.6 days together. As a group they'll have a combined time logged of roughly 11520 hours or 480 days.

In short no, a point system might not be the best for ADL. As I hope to have illustrated, no system would be. It's a ridiculous trial probably cooked up by the same minds that gave us the original Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue. Minds that need to be reminded what 'fun' is, or that a trial can be hard without requiring more work than an actual job.

Something you, ~chan, also do not seem to understand. Because for all your boisterous self praise, you have yet to furnish us with the dazzling proof of your accomplishments. For every argument you supplant with another, you have yet to support any.
You continue to deride anyone with a valid point while providing neither facts for you arguments nor proof of the accomplishments you claim that would support your misdirection's.

I typed all that, when 5 letters can do so much more:

POIDH.