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    Goodbye Stormsurge.

    Relic+2 gives a ~20% chance per merit (so 100% with 5/5) of these Stratagems costing one charge currently. After this they can presumably be free of charge. I'll take -50 enmity for free over 7INT any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Goodbye Stormsurge.

    Relic+2 gives a ~20% chance per merit (so 100% with 5/5) of these Stratagems costing one charge currently. After this they can presumably be free of charge. I'll take -50 enmity for free over 7INT any day.
    Bet you any money the AF is changed before this update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Goodbye Stormsurge.

    Relic+2 gives a ~20% chance per merit (so 100% with 5/5) of these Stratagems costing one charge currently. After this they can presumably be free of charge. I'll take -50 enmity for free over 7INT any day.
    Never gonna happen.

    Not even in your wildest dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Goodbye Stormsurge.

    Relic+2 gives a ~20% chance per merit (so 100% with 5/5) of these Stratagems costing one charge currently. After this they can presumably be free of charge. I'll take -50 enmity for free over 7INT any day.
    Hey now can't go sayin Relic+2 and all the effect and then say "-50 enmity for free over 7INT" count the relic for Storms too its +12 int with relic+2 boots. not that its really much of a difference but some ppl might find it important
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesahade View Post
    Hey now can't go sayin Relic+2 and all the effect and then say "-50 enmity for free over 7INT" count the relic for Storms too its +12 int with relic+2 boots. not that its really much of a difference but some ppl might find it important
    I'd much rather have -50 enmity cures and nukes than the ability to give people +12 (or +6) to stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroUnlimited View Post
    I'd much rather have -50 enmity cures and nukes than the ability to give people +12 (or +6) to stats.
    I have -50 enmity cures already (or close to it), but with fully meritted -enmity strat though you could have -75% enmity cures (because strats stack multiplicatively with gear -enmity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I have -50 enmity cures already (or close to it), but with fully meritted -enmity strat though you could have -75% enmity cures (because strats stack multiplicatively with gear -enmity.
    I knew that. Regardless my point remains the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I have -50 enmity cures already (or close to it), but with fully meritted -enmity strat though you could have -75% enmity cures (because strats stack multiplicatively with gear -enmity.
    That's true, but looking at it from another perspective you could avoid swapping into -enmity gear, using better gear for other purposes (more damage/potency/whatever) and gaining lots of precious inventory slots.

    But anyway this talk is moot, I seriously doubt they're gonna give us free stratagems.
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