SMN adjustments....seriously?

[Neisan_Quetz]

WS is BP on 45 second timer... I can't take you serious anymore. Even my whm weaponskills more often than that.

EDIT: Using your precious 'fodder' as a target (outside) using a modified DPS sheet and assuming only Mrykr since Dallas apparently isn't using any other WS and most of Karb's propsed set, your avatar would need to deal 170 damage per second to match an unbuffed Rdm, which is inferior to every other melee job in DPS. If you really think you're dealing good damage with that, idk what to say.

[Draylo]

SMN is in desperate need of help, stop trying to make it seem like it doesn't need it. Nobody uses SMN for anything besides zombying WOE or a 1 trick 2hr.

[Malamasala]

I'm always so disappinted at my new staff WS not critting.

You put up all those high damage atmas on your avatar in Abyssea, and then you get almost no benefit from them at all. (I need to level higher and put more than 1 merit into the ws though). I was doing about 600 damage, which is rather poor when I could be critting that damage up with a real WS.

[Mahoro]

SMN is in desperate need of help, stop trying to make it seem like it doesn't need it. Nobody uses SMN for anything besides zombying WOE or a 1 trick 2hr.

Don't think anybody is saying it doesn't need help. Also, you forgot Voidwatch. That combined with the stuff you listed (and upcoming Legion) actually means people use it on more than half the endgame events in FF.

[Dallas]

WS is BP on 45 second timer... I can't take you serious anymore. Even my whm weaponskills more often than that.

EDIT: Using your precious 'fodder' as a target (outside) using a modified DPS sheet and assuming only Mrykr since Dallas apparently isn't using any other WS and most of Karb's propsed set, your avatar would need to deal 170 damage per second to match an unbuffed Rdm, which is inferior to every other melee job in DPS. If you really think you're dealing good damage with that, idk what to say.

If we were to allow you to post as often as the people who know how you play smn let you play SMN, you'd have 99% of your posts somewhere else. Don't worry, we do completely understand that no one thinks you can play thejob well.

At least your WHM is levelled. Please, if you claim competence on that job, stop playing this one. You make us look bad.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Better than being as delusional about the job's state as you are.

[Dallas]

And LOL at your first attempt at anti-melee SMN calculations. Think that's cutting edge? Just like SMN, RDM is expected to perform their customary duties which require casting time to haste each person. SMN requires 1 second for a JA.

You can try all you like, but smarter arguments have failed.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You were the one claiming all you fight is fodder... Enfeebles aren't necessary on fodder nor is a ton of healing. Even taking out time to caste haste (This is so hard on a job with a large amount of fast cast, even without swapping weapons I finish casting haste long before you'll finish defensive bloodpacts) you're still behind a melee Rdm.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for reminding me you have JA delay on all your bloodpacts slowing down your Tp phase. I'd say it comes out fairly even.

[Dallas]

I wasn't making any claims. You are so far out of the SMN discussion you actually think I'm having a conversation with you. I'm just setting you up over and over to make the same stupid arguments every non-SMN makes. The less you know, the better you dance, and you are a superstar.

Let's be honest. It doesn't matter what any SMN does. You won't learn from any of us. That's why i don't bother teaching.

[Neisan_Quetz]

So you can't admit you don't know how game mechanics work Laughtermath, your refute is time spent casting haste (~2 second or less casting time with decent fast cast, lasts 9 minutes on the Rdm themselves and 5:51 on others with composure bonus).

I wasn't making any claims.

As for melee not being used in events, what kind of stupid events do you go to where NOTHING is fodder? You should have 300% TP ready to use Myrkr during the big fight because EVERYBODY was busy getting TP before the fight.

Care to repeat that? You somehow think you're the only one who can store 300 tp pre fight... Even with 50% ODD, you'd still lose. Try again. You can't even back up your claims, you just toss out anecdotal evidence from fighting weak monsters.