SMN adjustments....seriously?

[Karbuncle]

Only reason they don't generally melee in VW or Abyssea is because most people, as explained in my first post, are pretty much stuck in the Stupid ages of FFXI. VW/Aby is really the only place where SMN melee would be less-useless, because of the limitless MP and massive bonuses to SMN's natural weakness. it stops most smns because...

1) FFXI Stone-age monkeys might yell at them not to melee and refuse to give a valid excuse. (because there is none)
2) Most SMNs dont own a melee set because its not worthwhile for most events.

Theres a lot stopping it, But in this day, theres no valid reason not too in Events like VW and Abys, Hell, even Dynamis if you're there (like for Relic+2 trials).

As far as Shattersoul goes, 3.75fTP across the 3 hits and 100%INT Mod, A lot of SMN Gear is designed around INT. You can use High STR rings/Earrings, Belt, and Neck, And stock your Visible gear in INT. This will pack on the STR, and make up for their low STR.. This is a WS Set i had thought up for Shattersoul:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/250600

Will be pretty good. I think you could get some impressive numbers with the above.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I won't be able to test that since I've no interest in maat's or Kalasutrax, so someone else will have to. I haven't really seen impressive numbers from Shattersoul in the first place.

[Karbuncle]

I won't be able to test that since I've no interest in maat's or Kalasutrax, so someone else will have to. I haven't really seen impressive numbers from Shattersoul in the first place.

Well, I can get you some Out-side Abyssea Numbers later on, k? Its pretty decent.

Edit: If i had it merited. Doh.

[Sargent]

2) Most SMNs dont own a melee set because its not worthwhile for most events.

Might wanna add, with a full Idle set, Perp- set, full Summoning skill set, BP delay set, full Atk/MAB set, fast cast set, there's not much room for a melee set. I would love to carry one around for when I am needed to melee (/point WARs in VW who won't unequip Ukon to proc), but I'm currently 76/80 with just gear, Echos and Linkshell. I just hadta remove my most of my cure potency set to make room for additions to my summoner gear (Celeano/Bhishani finally put out), and it looks like my Fast Cast set is next.

[Karbuncle]

Might wanna add, with a full Idle set, Perp- set, full Summoning skill set, BP delay set, full Atk/MAB set, fast cast set, there's not much room for a melee set. I would love to carry one around for when I am needed to melee (/point WARs in VW who won't unequip Ukon to proc), but I'm currently 76/80 with just gear, Echos and Linkshell. I just hadta remove my most of my cure potency set to make room for additions to my summoner gear (Celeano/Bhishani finally put out), and it looks like my Fast Cast set is next.

Thats kinda what i meant anyway :P

Too many sets not enough room

[Dallas]

Worst melee next to BLM? We have turned stupid on full throttle, I see. The SMN's WS is the bloodpact. Always has been. Instead of attack, you get avatar attacks.Always has been that way. That's why stupid comments like "we need more attack" go unnoticed, but a 5% pet haste belt was implemented in months.

As for melee not being used in events, what kind of stupid events do you go to where NOTHING is fodder? You should have 300% TP ready to use Myrkr during the big fight because EVERYBODY was busy getting TP before the fight.

Seriously, is SMN the dumping grounds for stupid?

[Karbuncle]

Instead of attack, you get avatar attacks

Wasn't it shown by some amount of testing that "Avatar: Attack" Has almost no impact on BP Damage at all? Was under the impression anyway. Plus, Wouldn't you be better off using 75BP's on anything of consequence?

Plus, I'm using voidwatch as an Example cause its the one place SMN actually has a normal Spot in the alliance for. Other events you generally don't go SMN too. Because people won't invite you on it.

[Dallas]

I go to everything as smn. In a pinch I can replace every other mage. Otherwise, I'm dishing out damage and buffing.

I'm not talking "avatar attack" merits, I'm talking about the Assault command. SMN gets more attack rounds at half the hate. Those hits turn into pettp that is very useful.

[Karbuncle]

I go to everything as smn. In a pinch I can replace every other mage. Otherwise, I'm dishing out damage and buffing.

I'm not talking "avatar attack" merits, I'm talking about the Assault command. SMN gets more attack rounds at half the hate. Those hits turn into pettp that is very useful.

I Think i know what you mean then. Still, You're a special case. If you go SMN to every event, you clearly find tolerable people or have a good group of friends who will let you. If you see a Shout for Neo-Nyzul you'll never see someone asking for a SMN was my point. You can't really replace a SCH in the Neo Nyzul set up, Cause they're generally used for Embrava.

Its not that i don't believe what SMN can do, Its just undeniably there are some situations where SMN wouldn't fill the spot well enough, Same goes for all jobs.

[Dallas]

I made it a point 6 years ago to play within the same confines that all basic jobs play by. My job is to make sure nothing falls apart.