Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[NightDagger]

I like the idea of an "Auto Kick BUT I would like to see SE also give the Alliance leader some control. Like if someone does have to go eat dinner or something the Alliance leader could go to party menu & set that person to "Away" or something & that would prevent them from the "Auto Kick". Unless SE was able to give us someway of controlling who is AFK for a real reason & who is leeching then there is no way this could work.

I also feel that 30 is to low to enter Abyssea but 7-75+ is to high. The 60 range is a fair lvl to make entry. By that time the player will know what there job is about and not be totally once reached 90 & getting XP in non-abyssea areas are really good now so getting to 6 the "old way" would bring some life back to the other area's which is much needed.

Another thing that needs to be adjusted in order for this to work is making you able to skill up wen in LVL Sync. but that is another topic..

NightDagger
Lakshmi

[Kirana]

There are several reason why you might need/want to go afk in abyssea that do not involve leeching (or perhaps you are in a pt with friends who are actually wanting to leech you). A change like one presented by OP would be a bit too drastic. If you don't want leechers in your pt, have the leader kick them. If the leader is "too busy" to kick someone, then the wrong person is leading your pt.

[Linh]

If I have lead , damn straight I'm kicking afker's. If I don't , why should I find yet another party when I built my lights in this one?...

Because apparently the Party and/or leader is still competent enough, and the experience points are still good enough that you don't want to leave.

You would most likely leave if the party kept messing up on pulls and died on each mob. Nothing wrong with that.

But the exp is *still* so damn good even with a leecher that it makes you not want to leave that party. Your purpose in joining that party was to gain exp, and leech or not, the rest of the party has fulfilled that for you.

[Method]

It depends on what kind of leeching. I have no problem with a level 30 job in abyssea doing keys. Their job is to open chests, mine is to kill mobs to spawn the chests. People who are there just to stand there and contribute nothing to the party annoy me though.

And as far as auot kick from abyssea goes. Wouldn't just autorunning into a wall get around that?

[Hoshi]

I think booting an inactive player from abyssea is a bad idea... I like to go in to abyssea and build up crazy amounts of time (600+ min) and then farm gold chests solo. It's nice if you build up that much time to be able to take a break for a few hours and do something else. Furthermore the people who cheat can easily avoid this auto kick thing by use of a bot. A system like this would never punish the people who are most likely to abuse it because those are the same people who would run a bot to stay in abyssea.

That aside I love bringing a level 30 job into abyssea and walking out at 70+. I do it with a group of friends in my ls and I don't see how that's hurting anyone else's abyssea experience.

[Corres]

won't happen.
maybe to 60 but not on to 75.
i never was afk leeching my sub i opened chests and got replacements for the alliance so don't you dare to say: you never work for you exp. have fun opening chests for yourself and constantly missin the cruor for brews.

lvl 60 min for abyssea entrance is allright above that sheer stupidity.

but again: that wil not happen.
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[GlobalVariable]

Make doing something else more appealing than leeching for those low level players, and/or give them something more they can do in abyssea that involves other low level people.

I've leeched in abyssea some. It wasn't by choice, I really wanted to level and actually play my job but I could sit around passing up exping a job for weeks and weeks or slowly grind my way solo. I had my flag up, and got invited - I view that as lucky. Another job I made my own alliance for. It beat slowly grinding out solo while waiting for an invite. I have a few jobs I still refuse to take to abyssea - I worked my rear off making sure I had very good, even exceptional mid level gear and dangit I intend to use it, those jobs are fun and I want to bash mobs heads in with my pre-abyssea muled over shinies /sulk

[Topdogg]

And as far as auot kick from abyssea goes. Wouldn't just autorunning into a wall get around that?

Yes, but seeing someone humping a wall is a quick way to detect an afker. So it would still be a good idea.

[Alhanelem]

But then you probably leveled most of your jobs as leech

I leveled zero jobs as a leech. I raised BLM from 37 to 49 as a key person. And I was active the entire time.

I agree people who AFK for long periods of time suck. But these people can be any level- they're not just low level people and changing the level limits isn't going to stop that.

[FrankReynolds]

im all for lowering it to level 1 as well.