Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[longbow71]

kicking for being inactive can be done by a party leader. As far as kicking for being inactive I am strongly against this, mainly because I party with a group for a long while to build time until I'm too tired tp play any more and drop from the party. Then I go inactive in the zone with about 10-12 hours worth of minutes.

After I get about 5 hours of sleep I start farming the zone til I run out of space in my inventory and leave and sell all of the Dark rings I collected for mega gil. Not forgeting all the skills I get for my other weapons that bst dont normally use like dagger sword and club, as well as parry skills.

[Andevom]

Yes, because there you have to rest MP, while in Abyssea you have refresh. Fix that and MAYBE it would be worth doing something outside abyssea for low levels.

The downtime is really not that bad with a normal Refresh. Not having to bother with chests to get 500+ EXP is also pretty nice too.

[Rambus]

Yes, because there you have to rest MP, while in Abyssea you have refresh. Fix that and MAYBE it would be worth doing something outside abyssea for low levels.

there was a sudy on this concept with babies, you can give the baby a small toy, and it was happy (ATU buff in exp rate) then you give the baby a bigger toy it was happy ( abyssea) then when you take the toy away and give the first toy back to it ( AHU level rate) it was unahppy. really people hate the idea of resting?

*inset back in my day rants* like all we had to rest in was dark staff and people where happy with the new 5k-10k hr standered that ATU gave.

kicking for being inactive can be done by a party leader. As far as kicking for being inactive I am strongly against this, mainly because I party with a group for a long while to build time until I'm too tired tp play any more and drop from the party. Then I go inactive in the zone with about 10-12 hours worth of minutes.

After I get about 5 hours of sleep I start farming the zone til I run out of space in my inventory and leave and sell all of the Dark rings I collected for mega gil. Not forgeting all the skills I get for my other weapons that bst dont normally use like dagger sword and club, as well as parry skills.

more reason i support the OP, does the game really need to be this easy?

[Topdogg]

kicking for being inactive can be done by a party leader. As far as kicking for being inactive I am strongly against this, mainly because I party with a group for a long while to build time until I'm too tired tp play any more and drop from the party. Then I go inactive in the zone with about 10-12 hours worth of minutes.

After I get about 5 hours of sleep I start farming the zone til I run out of space in my inventory and leave and sell all of the Dark rings I collected for mega gil. Not forgeting all the skills I get for my other weapons that bst dont normally use like dagger sword and club, as well as parry skills.

Yes, but noramally the leader is too busy playing his job than to rather stare at a non moving character to determine if he/she is afk. And about your inactivity in abyssea/time built, you could just logout to keep from getting kicked from zone.

[Topdogg]

there was a sudy on this concept with babies, you can give the baby a small toy, and it was happy (ATU buff in exp rate) then you give the baby a bigger toy it was happy ( abyssea) then when you take the toy away and give the first toy back to it ( AHU level rate) it was unahppy. really people hate the idea of resting?

*inset back in my day rants* like all we had to rest in was dark staff and people where happy with the new 5k-10k hr standered that ATU gave.

Then we need to stop being babies. :P

[Sinthetic]

Or you can have the PT leader Kick ! the Person who is aFK long time And the issue is solved

[Harpalina]

I agree wholeheartedly Topdogg. I have zero tolerance for people who persistently goes AFK without saying anything for like 10 minutes+...hell, even 5 minutes+. I can't stand seeing leechers take their 30 jobs to 90 in the same party or within a span of a couple days. I've said this is another post and I'll repeat it here: I think that the experience you receive (both literal experience points and figurative experience you receive when encountering different situations) shapes you into a better player. Now, I understand some jobs are just plain brainless. You sit there, hit attack, use your weapon skill, use job abilities, and boom. That's all folks! Abyssea I believe has dumbed down the gameplay for us, as consumers; it has made things ridiculously easy. Now, that's not to say I haven't benefited from Abyssea, seeing as how I have 5 jobs at 90 and have done my fair share of Abyssea-related partying and events. It almost feels like the levels and areas from 10 to 70 have been rendered completely useless. Look at Campaign and Besieged...not to mention Assaults and Salvage...it's pretty much barren. I think by raising the Abyssea level to 70+, it would breathe new life into the lower levels as well as repair some of the damage that's been inflicted upon Campaign and Besieged...not to mention the poor auction house economy and variety of items and gears that's available for auction.

Yes, because there you have to rest MP, while in Abyssea you have refresh. Fix that and MAYBE it would be worth doing something outside abyssea for low levels.

With the lower levels, you don't need 10MP refresh ticks otherwise you would be overpowered...that's why there's Fields of Valor Regen and Refresh...as well as Reraise. And they did fix it...by upping the experience points yielded in non-Abyssea areas. Empress Band + chain 5 = 1000 exp. HELLO?! Patience is a virtue and that's what this game was built on when it was released. Now everything is 'hurry, hurry...gotta get that next level..omfgwtfbbqcats ICANTWAIT. I NEED MOAR LEVELSSSSSSS!!!!!!!111111one!" and quite frankly that mentality is irritating and noobish at best.

[Vivik]

No thanks. I support leeching in Abyssea.

[HFX7686]

As someone who has never leeched a job in Abyssea I do not mind the current level minimums for entry into the Abyssea zones. It doesn't bother me and I've never understood why it bothers other people. Just don't play with people who don't play in a way you find unacceptable. Abyssea entry requirements are fine. Leave them as is please.

[Alhanelem]

What do I think? I think this subject needs to be dropped. If a party is willing to allow a "leecher" then there should be no issue. If you don't like it, then form your own party and dont invite anyone you label a leecher.

The level limit is already higher for dynamis than Abyssea anyway. Anyone who is able to enter is at least somewhat able to contribute.

TL;DR: It's not a problem and doesn't need to be addressed. Who is going to go into dynamis just for the EXP anyway?