Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

[Skybrit]

Yes, the lvl 70 or 75 limit would be much more effective.

[Topdogg]

You misinterpret my meaning. Based on your sig (and your ffxiah profile) you have absolutely no knowledge of how the game works or how to gear yourself, therefore nothing you say can have any validity to it.

The current gear on my profile is for my 77 drk which I just started back playing 1 day before the shutdown. If it matters to you, I had sold all of my gear a while back and using universal gear till 78. But I thank you for taking time to check me out.

[Kuishen]

The current gear on my profile is for my 77 drk which I just started back playing 1 day before the shutdown. If it matters to you, I had sold all of my gear a while back and using universal gear till 78. But I thank you for taking time to check me out.

You did not at all help your case with this post, only made it worse.

[Topdogg]

You did not at all help your case with this post, only made it worse.

That's fine, troll away.

[Kuishen]

Pointing out that you have no right to suggest anything to improve the game based on your lack of understanding of game mechanics and how to gear yourself isn't trolling.

[Camiie]

As others have said, if you don't like leeching then form your own parties. If you join someone else's group you are free to leave if they aren't doing things the way you like and don't care to conform to your standards. If a person joins your group who has under-leveled skills or inadequate gear then say something and remove them if you so desire. If someone is leeching or is gimp and isn't in your group then there's no problem in the first place.

[Hyperon]

I am not as angry with leeching as I once was with the exp boost. With this new boost, if you key anywhere outside of heroes aby its a loss in my eyes. Because the amount of time you will spend skilling back up is not worth the headache.

I love punishing key people/afk'ers. I would love to see it get taken it one step further

1) If you are below level 65 you can enter abyssea but you can't do any quest, pop any monsters, or do any abyssea domion ops

2) Exp from chests will always be half of what it could be for people under 65

3) Can't talk/interact with NPCs or use any npc functions while under 65 in abyssea.

4) You can only have 1 (or maybe 2) stacks of keys on you at one time if you are below level 65

Eh, maybe I am being too mean to the lazy key people of FFXI. I mean there have been a few good points of why key ppl are needed. Maybe I am just too jaded because when I make lower level pts for new players in the LS or I just want to level up another job I still see people with "Aby only key please" and they would have been something to tie a pt up to go fight (healer or tank this is a reference to).

I mean there were a lot people who did not like those who used to astral flow burn, but at least those people who did go and leech there paid the price for it. The prices I saw were 250-500k for a pull or an hour or 2. I could be wrong on those prices, its been a while since I used to see the /sh. Also the only thing I didn't like was that the players who attempted to stop the burn but diaga the pull got banned for a day or 3. Getting banned for claiming monsters that weren't claimed lol, who would have thought. Also yes people did get banned for doing this. 2 in game friends and 1 rl friend got banned just for diaga a groups pull before the smn's even started.

So basically lol punish the key ppl. I am too much of a heartless bastard at times lol.

Oh about afk'ers... a few tips

1) Don't stay in the party, leave and go search.
2) Let the pt ldr know that your leaving because there are too many afk'ers or too many key ppl.
3) Remember who these people are and don't go back to their pts any more.

Lazy alli ldrs and pt ldrs within the alli are usually the same ppl you run into in your server most of the time. People who get most of their LS in the pt and then have like 3-5 go afk/leech even when its not called for is stupid. Don't reward them by staying there and trying hard. Just let them know why your leaving if you want to be polite, or just straight up leave if you don't give a damn. Aby pts are not hard to get into, its hard to maintain. So even if you have a band of idiots who control the ldr spots in your exp pt, just go and remember who they are. Don't blist them because who knows maybe they will have a use for you later on. Just because someone is afk don't mean they suck, they just caught a case of I dont give a crap and you are just collateral damage. Instead, remember who they are (if your memory blows just write the name down), then when you see them shouting in port jueno jump in their group, get what you want, and bounce (or if you want complete what your doing with them but make sure you at least get yours). I bend over backward for nice people in this game, and assholes get treated like crap around me. I dont know what it is with abyssea but the nice people in this game just get taken advantage of and the assholes just run wild.

[Mrbeansman]

What is so hard about just not playing with people who leach?

[Topdogg]

I am not as angry with leeching as I once was with the exp boost. With this new boost, if you key anywhere outside of heroes aby its a loss in my eyes. Because the amount of time you will spend skilling back up is not worth the headache.

I love punishing key people/afk'ers. I would love to see it get taken it one step further

1) If you are below level 65 you can enter abyssea but you can't do any quest, pop any monsters, or do any abyssea domion ops

2) Exp from chests will always be half of what it could be for people under 65

3) Can't talk/interact with NPCs or use any npc functions while under 65 in abyssea.

4) You can only have 1 (or maybe 2) stacks of keys on you at one time if you are below level 65

Eh, maybe I am being too mean to the lazy key people of FFXI. I mean there have been a few good points of why key ppl are needed. Maybe I am just too jaded because when I make lower level pts for new players in the LS or I just want to level up another job I still see people with "Aby only key please" and they would have been something to tie a pt up to go fight (healer or tank this is a reference to).

I mean there were a lot people who did not like those who used to astral flow burn, but at least those people who did go and leech there paid the price for it. The prices I saw were 250-500k for a pull or an hour or 2. I could be wrong on those prices, its been a while since I used to see the /sh. Also the only thing I didn't like was that the players who attempted to stop the burn but diaga the pull got banned for a day or 3. Getting banned for claiming monsters that weren't claimed lol, who would have thought. Also yes people did get banned for doing this. 2 in game friends and 1 rl friend got banned just for diaga a groups pull before the smn's even started.

So basically lol punish the key ppl. I am too much of a heartless bastard at times lol.

Oh about afk'ers... a few tips

1) Don't stay in the party, leave and go search.
2) Let the pt ldr know that your leaving because there are too many afk'ers or too many key ppl.
3) Remember who these people are and don't go back to their pts any more.

Lazy alli ldrs and pt ldrs within the alli are usually the same ppl you run into in your server most of the time. People who get most of their LS in the pt and then have like 3-5 go afk/leech even when its not called for is stupid. Don't reward them by staying there and trying hard. Just let them know why your leaving if you want to be polite, or just straight up leave if you don't give a damn. Aby pts are not hard to get into, its hard to maintain. So even if you have a band of idiots who control the ldr spots in your exp pt, just go and remember who they are. Don't blist them because who knows maybe they will have a use for you later on. Just because someone is afk don't mean they suck, they just caught a case of I dont give a crap and you are just collateral damage. Instead, remember who they are (if your memory blows just write the name down), then when you see them shouting in port jueno jump in their group, get what you want, and bounce (or if you want complete what your doing with them but make sure you at least get yours). I bend over backward for nice people in this game, and assholes get treated like crap around me. I dont know what it is with abyssea but the nice people in this game just get taken advantage of and the assholes just run wild.

I kinda feel the same. I don't respect people that do things the easy way while the rest of us did this the hard long way then seeing them show it off like they earned it. It takes the achievement away from the veterans who've been playing for the past 8 years achieving these goals, then seeing it handed to the noobs is sickening. They burn through lvl 90, burn through CoP, WoTG, and ToAU and then "look at me im l33t" while the rest of us struggled for help, strategy, and teamwork. I think this is the reason there is so much hate with lazy/leechers.
Back on topic, Maybe a better system instead of the time out feature would be: After inactive for 10-30 mins, your /away icon will automatically pop up, so that your party members would know when you are afk since we always cant stop what we're doing to watch to see if a character moves/casts.

[Greatguardian]

I don't respect people that do things the easy way while the rest of us did this the hard long way then seeing them show it off like they earned it.

/argument.

That's all there is to the other dozen threads on this. I've been playing since NA release, did everything the hard way, and I still can't and won't back you on this. It's thinly veiled jealousy at its finest.