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    Player Mystaticromance's Avatar
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    Now that we are at 99

    I posted a while back, and all I got was, "Do a mythic!" Thanks, but if the original post was actually read...I said that it would be a great idea to make an end-all, be-all damage staff for BLMs. This would include having to obtain the relic, mythic, empyrean, AND all elemental damage staves.

    I still think that this is a great idea, and I think the devs should look into this. I want a staff that differentiates good BLMs from great BLMs. Make us obtain the following:

    99 Claustrum
    99 Laevateinn
    99 Hvergelmir
    99 Dark Magic Damage Staff
    99 Light Magic Damage Staff
    99 Fire Magic Damage Staff
    99 Ice Magic Damage Staff
    99 Water Magic Damage Staff
    99 Wind Magic Damage Staff
    99 Thunder Magic Damage Staff
    99 Earth Magic Damage Staff

    The idea is to obtain all of these staves and trade them in to upgrade each one. For example, if you trade in the 99 Ice and Thunder Damage Staves, you will get back one staff that has the SAME attributes for both elements on ONE staff. This would condense inventory space and make for one bad ass weapon.

    It would eventually culminate in one staff that is dramatically more powerful than all of the rest. It is not meant to be easy to obtain, this is meant for players who are serious about BLM.
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    Player Brolic's Avatar
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    i'd also like to combine my pdt sword and my almace
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    Take off the relic, mythic, empyrean (and maybe dark/light) and I'd get behind this.

    Otherwise, ugh no.
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    -mdt / -pdt sword ..... adding pdt to almace is too powerful
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    Player Joyroth's Avatar
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    I am sorry. Gaining a relic and a mythic staff does not define a good BLM from a great BLM.

    Needless to say. If SE where to combine the magian staves then they would need to do it for the other weapons as well.
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    Player Mystaticromance's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyroth View Post
    I am sorry. Gaining a relic and a mythic staff does not define a good BLM from a great BLM.

    Needless to say. If SE where to combine the magian staves then they would need to do it for the other weapons as well.
    This could absolutely start a trend for SE to combine other weapons. I'm all for optimizing inventory space.

    And I never said having these made you great. I said I want a staff that differentiates good from great. This is a suggestion to attain that.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyroth View Post
    Needless to say. If SE where to combine the magian staves then they would need to do it for the other weapons as well.
    Why? Other weapons don't have the same paths as staves. Staves have several exceptions, even among elemental trial weapons.

    Usually there's two elemental paths, one for Attributes (STR and Attack, AGI and Evasion, etc.) and one for additional effects (weakens attack, impairs evasion, etc.). Pet job weapons get an additional elemental weapon for pet effects (axe for BST, staff for SMN and hand-to-hand for PUP).

    Now, staff gets two extra paths per element just for spellcasters. One is for magic damage the other for magic accuracy. So not only is it an exception to every other trial weapon anyway, but it has something else that sets them apart from all other trial weapons (shared with the avatar pet staves): the effects of the staves are mutually exclusive. Comparing this to combining the PDT and MDB sword or the Attack and Evasion dagger are completely groundless, because then you'd benefit from both swords/daggers at the same time. You'd get a weapon that's superior to the two before. For example, you could maintain high attack while keeping high evasion on.

    That would not be the case for combining mage specific staves, because you could not use the seperate effects simultaneously. If you cast a water-elemental spell, you would only get a bonus from one of the staves. And you'd get the same bonus from the (hypothetical) combined staff. As such, it's not a better weapon, only a more convenient one. It wouldn't require you to gimp your inventory just to be efficient. And I don't think that your playstyle should ever be hindered by your inventory (which, sadly, is the case as of now).

    I'd be all for combining the mage-specific staves, all damage, accuracy and avatar ones. Even if it was an exception, it would be a very welcome one.

    However, I strongly disagree with the relic/mythic/empyrean idea. I'd want the staff to actually be obtainable.
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    Player Joyroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Why? Other weapons don't have the same paths as staves. Staves have several exceptions, even among elemental trial weapons?
    If SE just combines one set of the Magian Trials...you don't think others would catch on and make the same request?

    I just don't see this happening.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyroth View Post
    If SE just combines one set of the Magian Trials...you don't think others would catch on and make the same request?
    No, because it's apples and oranges. Combining most elemental trial weapons would result in a vastly superior weapon. That is not the case for mage-style weapons. They're only more convenient, but equally powerful. There's a fundamental difference there. Requesting the same treatment for other weapons would be unreasonable.
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    Player Geabrielle's Avatar
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    Just. Plain. NO.

    That is all
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