dev1069 Phantom Roll Effect Adjustments feedback

[Nightfyre]

How does uninformed feedback provide an appropriate environment for good game design? Eyeballing was one of the biggest issues holding FFXI gameplay back in its early years. If you're going to educate the masses, give them the full story instead of a post that is obviously meant to sell people on the benefits without examining the drawbacks. As I said before, the players have expounded on both the benefits and the limitations of defense in this thread as part of our feedback.

For example, let's go back and look at Mocchi's numbers again.

• Naked (Defense 460): 245 damage
• Defender (Defense 575): 216 damage
• Defender + food (Defense 663): 197 damage

Defender reduced damage by nearly 13.5%, but it also reduced attack by 25%. Given the constant decay of so-called "volatile enmity", this actually ends up reducing a tank's ability to generate and maintain hate by more than it will reduce their non-decaying enmity loss because spells and JAs are too infrequent to keep VE constantly near cap. You could have achieved the same defensive result with less than half the offensive cost on any job by instead using 12% PDT gear.

Food reduced damage taken by a further 9.5%. A PLD could gain twice that much in offensive output by eating pizza or red curry buns and instead wearing an additional 8% PDT. Let's also remember that PDT can be macro'd in and out for WS. As such, while your white damage and WS frequency is reduced, your per-WS damage remains intact.

If you're trying to sell us on defense post-PDT, how do you propose the person this buff is targeting should maintain hate? Flash and Cure spam? The only job left with a remotely effective means of non-damage hate generation post-RDM nerf is BLU, with Fantod generating 320 CE and 320 VE on a ~5 second timer with gear/buffs. Even in my best enmity gear, that's not going to maintain hate over any DD just because of how the game works. Also, it's not like we even use disengaged tanks at this point in the game anyway.

So I go back to DDing for hate and you're asking me to trade... Berserk, red curry buns, and Chaos or Fighter's Roll for a mediocre reduction in damage? Unless something is oneshotting me (in which case: hello Stun, Earthen Armor, Scherzo, all more efficient choices), I'm going to take less damage overall by going with the offensive buffs and making the monster dead faster. I'm also going to be able to kill more things in less time; hooray for efficiency gains!